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wwiliamUID: 2185333

226. "People are mistaken when they assume that the problems they confront arc more complex and challenging than the problems faced by their predecessors. This illusion is eventually dispelled with increased knowledge and experience." (86)
226． 人们错误地认为他们碰到的问题要比他们前辈碰到的问题更复杂、更具挑战性。这个错觉最终会随着知识和经验的积累消失的

提纲：
1、人们在生活中遇到的一些课题前人也会遇到。
自然世界中的永恒主题，不随着时间而改变
人类生活中的常见课题（各个阶段必然遇到的、人类社会中的常见的主题）
2、世界是发展的（自然世界和人类世界）――出现新的课题有待解决；人类的认识是不断前进的――在前人的基础上，前人未能解决的课题。或者继承前人留下的财富，站在更高的高度上，才能发现的新的更具挑战性的问题。
3、所以要继承前人遗产（了解文化历史，学习科学知识），前人遇过的课题要借鉴或采纳前人的做法；并有创造性的解决新的课题和遗留下来的课题，以此推动人类的进步。

Is it a mistake that people assume that the problems they confront are more complex and challenging problems, compared to what their predecessors have faced? Is people’s assumption may certainly dispelled with increased knowledge and experience? The speaker believes so, whereas I strongly disagree.

In my view, there are two kinds of problems people will confront, one of which remains the same complex and challenging as what their predecessors have faced. However, the other is highly different from the problems faced by the predecessors, which are more complex and challenging. The speaker does not distinguish these two different kinds of problems and mistakenly considers both of them as the first kind of problems mentioned above.  

Admittedly, people will inevitably confront the problems which also have been faced by their predecessors. This kind of problems may be the everlasting problems in the natural world. Take the mysterious universe for example, a great number of problems remain unknown during the thousands of years. The boundary of the universe remains unknown, the geological condition and environment of other millions of celestial bodies remains unknown, the problem about the organisms live in those celestial bodies also remains unknown, not mention the problem concerned by a great number of people that whether there are some intelligent life-form live there. Moreover, some problems appear in people’s daily life may also be the same as what their predecessors have faced before. Such as the problems faced by people in each period of their lives. When people were young children, they may try their best to learn riding bicycle, which may seems to be such a complex and challenging problems in the young children’s mind. When they become older, with a great deal of experience in riding bicycle, it may be such an easy thing as eating and sleeping. And they may also realize that it is also confronted by their predecessors when they see children younger than them learning riding bicycle.

Yet, due to the development of both natural world and human world, people will confront a great many of problems which are more complex and challenging than the problems faced by their predecessors. The development of science may deduce some more complex and challenging problems, such as the problem about the security of internet. When computer and internet have been widely used, the security of the internet becomes more and more important, it is highly time to establish a comprehensive system include a series of laws and organizations to solve the problem. It is a complex and challenging thing, whereas understanding the concept of the internet may be a complex and challenging thing for the predecessors lived in the hundreds years ago.  

Next, with the understanding about the world is improved by the effort of generations of people, the problems people confront are more and more complex and challenging compared to their predecessors. The problems left may be more complex or it must have been solved by the predecessors. And new complex problems may be discovered in base of knowledge inherited from the predecessors. All of these problems are more complex and challenging result from the increased knowledge and experience.   
                     
To sum up, in my opinion, people should inherit the knowledge and experience from their predecessors and realize the difference between the two kinds of the problem which they will confront in their lives. With the using the method of the predecessors for reverence, people can solve the first kind of problems effectively and efficiently. people should not only solve the second kind of problem in base of the knowledge and experiece inherited from their predecessors, but also pay attention to the new characteristics of the problems and settle them creatively, in this way, the society can be kept in the situation of well developing.

[ 本帖最后由 staralways 于 2006-2-18 11:31 编辑 ]

michelle1021UID: 195011

提纲：
1、人们在生活中遇到的一些课题前人也会遇到。
自然世界中的永恒主题，不随着时间而改变
人类生活中的常见课题（各个阶段必然遇到的、人类社会中的常见的主题）
2、世界是发展的（自然世界和人类世界）――出现新的课题有待解决；人类的认识是不断前进的――在前人的基础上，前人未能解决的课题。或者继承前人留下的财富，站在更高的高度上，才能发现的新的更具挑战性的问题。
3、所以要继承前人遗产（了解文化历史，学习科学知识），前人遇过的课题要借鉴或采纳前人的做法；并有创造性的解决新的课题和遗留下来的课题，以此推动人类的进步。

Is it a mistake that people assume that the problems they confront are more complex and challenging problems, compared to what their predecessors have faced? Is people’s assumption may certainly dispelled with increased knowledge and experience?我觉得首段用2个问句开头不大合适吧 The speaker believes so, whereas I strongly disagree.

In my view, there are two kinds of problems people will confront, one of which remains the same complex and challenging as what their predecessors have faced. However, the other is highly different from the problems faced by the predecessors, which are more complex and challenging. The speaker does not distinguish these two different kinds of problems and mistakenly considers both of them as the first kind of problems mentioned above. 我个人觉得这一段可以和第一段和起来

Admittedly, people will inevitably confront the problems which also have been faced by their predecessors. This kind of problems may be the everlasting problems in the natural world. Take the mysterious universe for example, a great number of problems remain unknown during the thousands of years. The boundary of the universe remains unknown, the geological condition and environment of other millions of celestial bodies remains unknown, the problem about the organisms live in those celestial bodies also remains unknown, not mention the problem concerned by a great number of people that whether there are some intelligent life-form live there. Moreover, some problems appear in people’s daily life may also be the same as what their predecessors have faced before. Such as the problems faced by people in each period of their lives. When people were young children, they may try their best to learn riding bicycle, which may seemsseem to be such a complex and challenging problemsproblem in the young children’s mind. When they becomebecame older, with a great deal of experience in riding bicycle, it may be such an easy thing as eating and sleeping.我觉得这个例子不能充分说明问题，而且看得有点让我不知道要表达什么问题 And they may also realize that it is also confronted by their predecessors when they see children younger than them learning riding bicycle.

Yet, due to the development of both natural world and human world, people will confront a great many of problems which are more complex and challenging than the problems faced by their predecessors. The development of science may deduce some more complex and challenging problems, such as the problem about the security of internet. When computer and internet have been widely used, the security of the internet becomes more and more important, it is highly time to establish a comprehensive system includeincluding a series of laws and organizations to solve the problem. It is a complex and challenging thing, whereas understanding the concept of the internet may be a complex and challenging thing for the predecessors lived (to live)in the hundreds years ago.  

Next, with the understanding about the world is improved by the effort of generations of people, the problems people confront are more and more complex and challenging compared to their predecessors. The problems left may be more complex or it must have been solved by the predecessors. And new complex problems may be discovered in base of knowledge inherited from the predecessors. All of these problems are more complex and challenging result from the increased knowledge and experience.   这一段貌似在说理。好象没有举例说明哦
                     
To sum up, in my opinion, people should inherit the knowledge and experience from their predecessors and realize the difference between the two kinds of the problem which they will confront in their lives. With the using the method of the predecessors for reverence, people can solve the first kind of problems effectively and efficiently. people should not only solve the second kind of problem in base of the knowledge and experiece inherited from their predecessors, but also pay attention to the new characteristics of the problems and settle them creatively, in this way, the society can be kept in the situation of well developing.

我觉得你的第三段写的最好，又有观点又有恰当的例子，赞一下！

wwiliamUID: 2185333

恩，第一段和第二段合并比较好；骑车的例子我是试图想把issue中的第二个意思也阐述一下，适得其反。说理那段是该加个例子，时间太紧，就忽略了，最后一段写的有点罗嗦，恩，谢谢

怀王天下UID: 204875

望各位兄台姐妹，多多指教交流！

freud5027UID: 2165870

Is it a mistake that people assume that the problems they confront are more complex and challenging problems, compared to what their predecessors have faced? Is people’s assumption may certainly dispelled with increased knowledge and experience? The speaker believes so, whereas I strongly disagree.

In my view, there are two kinds of problems people will confront, one of which remains the same complex and challenging as what their predecessors have faced. However, the other is highly different from the problems faced by the predecessors, which are more complex and challenging. The speaker does not distinguish these two different kinds of problems and mistakenly considers both of them as the first kind of problems mentioned above.  

Admittedly, people will inevitably confront the problems which also have been faced by their predecessors. This kind of problems may be the everlasting problems in the natural world. Take the mysterious universe for example, a great number of problems remain unknown during the thousands of years. The boundary of the universe remains unknown, the geological condition and environment of other millions of celestial bodies remains unknown, the problem about the organisms live in those celestial bodies also remains unknown, not mention the problem concerned by a great number of people that whether there are some intelligent life-form live there.<对于宇宙最初的问题出发点可能是相同的，可一旦深入下去，现在提出的问题与前人所思考的是不同水平、不同深度的问题，从这个角度上来看，多少还是趋于更加复杂的> Moreover, some problems appear in people’s daily life may also be the same as what their predecessors have faced before. Such as the problems faced by people in each period of their lives. When people were young children, they may try their best to learn riding bicycle, which may seems to be such a complex and challenging problems in the young children’s mind. When they become older, with a great deal of experience in riding bicycle, it may be such an easy thing as eating and sleeping. And they may also realize that it is also confronted by their predecessors when they see children younger than them learning riding bicycle.<对于learning riding bicycle这个问题，我觉得你的角度接近于同一代人在他们人生的两个时期看待同一个问题的变化，但题目偏向于不同时代的人吧>

Yet, due to the development of both natural world and human world, people will confront a great many of problems which are more complex and challenging than the problems faced by their predecessors. The development of science may deduce some more complex and challenging problems, such as the problem about the security of internet. When computer and internet have been widely used, the security of the internet becomes more and more important, it is highly time to establish a comprehensive system include a series of laws and organizations to solve the problem. It is a complex and challenging thing, whereas understanding the concept of the internet may be a complex and challenging thing for the predecessors lived in the hundreds years ago.<你要强调段首的论点，这半句好像没有必要>  

Next, with the understanding about the world is improved by the effort of generations of people, the problems people confront are more and more complex and challenging compared to their predecessors. The problems left may be more complex or it must have been solved by the predecessors. And new complex problems may be discovered in base of knowledge inherited from the predecessors. All of these problems are more complex and challenging result from the increased knowledge and experience.   
                     
To sum up, in my opinion, people should inherit the knowledge and experience from their predecessors and realize the difference between the two kinds of the problem which they will confront in their lives. With the using the method of the predecessors for reverence, people can solve the first kind of problems effectively and efficiently. people should not only solve the second kind of problem in base of the knowledge and experiece inherited from their predecessors, but also pay attention to the new characteristics of the problems and settle them creatively, in this way, the society can be kept in the situation of well developing.

全文的思路还是清楚地，尽管有些观点的例证角度不妥，
另外感觉第一段中的strongly disagree在文章中没有感受到有力的证明。

wwiliamUID: 2185333

看来以后要注意自己的语法了；最后一段没有点题，就给人走题的印象了;看来 riding bicycle的例子很失败，我原意要呼应一下issue中的第二句－－经过知识经验积累的过程，人们发现以前的无知。
btw，多谢你们认真的修改，辛苦了