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第八次开始的~

OPIC: ARGUMENT37 - Woven baskets characterized by a particular distinctive pattern have previously been found only in the immediate vicinity of the prehistoric village of Palea and therefore were believed to have been unique to the Palean people. Recently, however, archaeologists discovered such a "Palean" basket in Lithos, an ancient village across the Brim River from Palea. The Brim River is very deep and broad, and so the ancient Paleans could only have crossed it by boat, but there is no evidence that the Paleans had boats. And boats capable of carrying groups of people and cargo were not developed until thousands of years after the Palean people disappeared. Moreover, Paleans would have had no need to cross the river-the woods around Palea are full of nuts, berries, and small game. It follows that the so-called Palean baskets were not unique to Palea.
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TIME: 00:25:11
DATE: 2010/2/4 23:39:48


Concluding that the so-called Palean baskets belonged not only to Palean, the author uses a recent discovery of similar baskets in Lithos as evidence. He cites that ancient men were unable to cross Brim River that lied between the two villagevillages,单复数】 and besides, they had no motivation of crossing it. However, the assumption, as well as the evidences, though sounded somewhat convincing, is in fact a fallacious one. The arguer undermines some important factersfactors that may offset the assumption, which I will discuss later.

First of all, the author seems to forget the time gap between ancient Palean people and us. Though the Brim River is too deep and broad to cross by habitants in Palean at this time, it is especially doubtful whether it was the same in prehistoric era. If the river was only a small creek thousands years ago and thus easy to cross, what the arguer suggests may in fact be a fallacious one. In addition, if at that time, there were few nuts, berries, and small games in Palean, which differed from our era,
the motivation to cross the river may indeed existed.


Even if the environment remains unchanged during the period of time, which may seem rediculousridiculous, the assumption suggested by the author is also suspicious. Though people at that time was unable to build up a boat, is there any other means that can bring a basket to the opposite bank of the river【小小改下:河对岸the far bank of the river/the other bank of the river/across the river——opposite太中式了。。】 besides human forces? Of cause! If one day a basket was dropped into the river, the current itself can carry it accrossacross the river, and if one guy lived in the Lithos Village happened to pick it up, there's no doubt that the same kind of basket be diggeddug up opposite the river. Furthermore, so long as the people were not capable of making a boat, can they utilize other things instead? Maybe a piece of wood or others? After all, what the lives of the ancient men were like was far beyond our imagination.

So to sum up, that the statement fails to be an invulnerable one firstly dues to the author's ignorance of the geographical diversity between prehistoricalprehistoric】 age and our age. He/she also neglects other factors that may help the basket to get across the Brim River. So in my opinion, without involving a detailed description of the geographical condition in ancient age as well as ruling out other possible means that enable people in Palean to cross the river, the conclusion will always be too hasty to arrive at.


【】内为错别字。。。。
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TOPIC: ARGUMENT7 - The following appeared in a letter to the editor of the Clearview newspaper.

"In the next mayoral election, residents of Clearview should vote for Ann Green, who is a member of the Good Earth Coalition, rather than for Frank Braun, a member of the Clearview town council, because the current members are not protecting our environment. For example, during the past year the number of factories in Clearview has doubled, air pollution levels have increased, and the local hospital has treated 25 percent more patients with respiratory illnesses. If we elect Ann Green, the environmental problems in Clearview will certainly be solved."
WORDS: 456          TIME: 00:30:00          DATE: 2010/2/4 21:34:07

The writer is trying to pursuade【persuade】 his/her readers to vote for Ann Green, rather than Frank Braun. He's reason is that Ann is a member of the Good Earth Coalition, thus he can do better in protecting the environment, which the current members failed. His evidence is the increasing number of factories, the raising level of air pollution, and the growth in patients number with respiratory illnesses. The argument, though sounded logical and cogent at the first glance, fails to provide invulnerable assumption as well as persuading evidence, which I'll discuss in details as follow.

First of all, the statement lies on the basis that the current members indeed failed to protect the environment. But the supports are too dubious to substantiate the assumption. Firstly, though the number of factories doubled during the past year, there's a lack of exact datas【data本身复数】 indicating what kinds of factories them are. Are they environmental protective ones or heavy polluted ones? If is the former, then the conclusion is the opposite. The current members have so far done well. In addition, the air pollution was increased indeed, but what's its growing rate. It may be much lower than which of the year before last year, and thus informs of us that the current members actually did well. Furthermore, as to the respiratory illnesses, the condition is especially complex, for not only the ambience, but also the somatic conditions of these patients affect the illness rate.  Besides, such diseases may have lantency【latency】. Though the environment became better, they could also appeared the sympten【symptoms】 of respiratory illnesses.

Even if the environment did go bad during last year and the current did fail in protecting the environment. It's still not enough to arrive at the conclusion that we shall elect Ann. Though he is a member of Good Earth Coalition, no evidence shows that he has a better ability in managing the government. In government handling, good will can do little. Sometimes people have to make conssesions【concessions】 on some issues including environmental ones. He may not be capable in dealing with both the environment-protecters【protector】 and the big factories, while Frank, on the other hand, may be more skillful at such points. In this case, it will be wiser to choose Frank in stead of Ann.

Though there exist many fallacious assumptions and suggestions in the arguer's statement, what listed above is enough to convince that the argument is a poor-related one. In order to strengthen its persuasive power, the author had better includes the exact stalistics【statistics】 of the types of factories, the increasing rate of the air pollution in comparison with former data. And more details about the two candidates should also be involved. Only in this way can the analysis be a more perfect one.
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TOPIC: ISSUE56 - "Governments should focus more on solving the immediate problems of today rather than trying to solve the anticipated problems of the future."
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DATE: 2010/2/6 23:14:02


Immediate problems or long-term concern?

It is a question that always puzzling us. Some immediate problem that may shake the basis of a government undoubtfullyundoubtedly calls for people's concern. But how about other problems? The short-term problem is easy to deal with and its efforts can soon be seen, but what about the anticipated problems? They may not so obvious as the immediate ones, one can hardly know whether his/her endeavor has been paid off. Can we stop those eminanteminent projects such as the space program, the environmental protection issues or the human gemome project simply because we cannot receive short-term revenues? The answer is of course no. Though it's of vital value to deal carefully with the current controversariescontroversies, it's as well crucial for us to pay enough attention to the long-term programs and the anticipated problem.

The immediate problems calls for immediate attandencesattendances partly because it serves in stablizestabilize the current government. There's no perfect man in the world. The same is with the government. A nation, developed or not, has problems concerning all living aspects. The racial and the rational conflictions, the lack of warfare in some kind of commonages, or the discrimination of all kinds serve to deminishdiminish,但这里用tamper之类可能会更好:> the basic construction of our nation. Without a sufficient dealing with such problems, they may soon develop into serious displacement and even rebellions. In this occasion, no long-time projects can be maintained, for the fund as well as technologic support relies on a stable and prosperiousprosperous government.

But how can we judge the seriousityseverity of each short-term issue? Are they really serious enough that only when an immediate action be taken, can the government remain tranquil? The definationdefinition of such issues is not so clear. In this occasion, what we shall do is to follow the route that was guided by the long-time project. For with the change of time, as well as the gradualygradually solution of the anticipation problems, such issues may disappear by themselves. For instance, in some pre-soviet countries, regarding the reconstruction of some national corperationscorporations, many workers disapproved fiercely for they might lose their jobs thus faced an unfamiliar competition environment. Was their displacement strong enough that the newly-founded governments lay in danger? The answer was not that certain. Besides, concerning the long-term, if these old-pattern companies continued to exist, the economy of the countries can never be boom. So in such circumstances, government leaders shall choose to follow the long-term prevision and solve the anticipation problems first.

In other conditions, however, the positive effects of a long-term can not clearly anticipated, while there's no fierce immediate controversarycontroversy. Which side shall we lean to. I think the long-term one is the choice. The anticipated problem, as it is forecasted, has certain realitisticrealistic basis and without enough attention, it may develop into an emergenicemergent issue in the future. The environmental problem serves to be the best example. Until now, the neglect of it has already cause serious problems such as the hole of O3 layerozonosphere and the aberrant weather and natural disasters in various parts of the world.

So all in all, from my perspective of view, the immediate problems are the basis while the anticipated ones are crucial if we'd like to leave a better society for our descents. When the necessity of a short-term issue is not sure, the long-term one can be the guidance. When there's no possible controversy between the two, a anticipated problem is to be dealt with first. After all, the balance between the two roots in the current situation of our diversified society. And a carefully examination of each problem is needed before making any choice.
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发表于 2010-2-6 23:48:13 |只看该作者
TOPIC: ARGUMENT76 - The following appeared as part of an article in a health and beauty magazine.

"A group of volunteers participated in a study of consumer responses to the new Luxess face cream. Every morning for a month, they washed their faces with mild soap and then applied Luxess. At the end of that month, most volunteers reported a marked improvement in the way their skin looked and felt. Thus it appears that Luxess is truly effective in improving the condition of facial skin."
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DATE: 2010/2/6 23:14:03


By studying the experiment result of a group of volunteers that used the new kind of face cream, the author intends to testify the effect of this Luxess's new product. He/She claims that it do help in improving the condition of facial skin for the volunteers reported a possitivepositive result. The argument, though seems to be somewhat convincing, is in fact an invulnerable one, for it omits some substantial concerns that should be address. In addition, the experiment quoted in the passage is extremely dubious.

First of all, the arguer fails to provide the gross number of the volunteers. If the sample include only 5 people for example, and only three reports of good result can be counted as "most". In this occasion, the result of the experiment is of no use. Furthermore, the statement fails to rule out other factors for there's few details about the respondantsrespondents. How old are they? What gendargender are they? Are their facial conditions the same at the beginning of the study? If the respondents are all young girls, whose skin are already in good conditions, then every face cream can improve their skin condition. Or if the respondents seldom wash faces before the study, then after 30 days of carefully washing with mild soaps, their skin condition will inevitably improve.

Another factor that may weaken the author's statement is that he/she fails to record the volunteers action other than the use of the face cream. Did they apply other body cream at the same time? If so, the improvement of the facial condition might attribute to other creams other than Luxess. Furthermore, so long as the respondents used only mild soap, the mayor doesn't show whether the cream will be incompatible with other kind of soaps. Besides, no evidence can actually gauge that there existed an improvement in the respondents’ facial conditions, for there was no evaluation system, and what the respondents said was too subjective to weigh the writers' assumption.
In addition, the conductor of the study remains unknown. If it's the company that produces Luxess face cream that conduct the study, they may misuse the data and the result of such study may be meaningless.

So all in all, the argument fails to be a logical accepted one, mostly because the study quoted to support it is quite vague, for lack of reliable statistics of the number of respondents and their facial condition offset the result of the study. Unless the arguer samples a sufficient number of volunteers and did so randomly, the result can be reliable to substantiate the assumption. He/She also need to rule out other factors and make sure there's no profit relation between the conductor of the study and Luxess Company. Only in this way can the argument be a vulnerable and stable one.
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TOPIC: ARGUMENT140 - The following appeared in a report of the Committee on Faculty Promotions and Salaries at Elm City University.

"During her seventeen years as a professor of botany, Professor Thomas has proved herself to be well worth her annual salary of $50,000. Her classes are among the largest at the university, demonstrating her popularity among students. Moreover, the money she has brought to the university in research grants has exceeded her salary in each of the last two years. Therefore, in consideration of Professor Thomas' demonstrated teaching and research abilities, we recommend that she receive a $10,000 raise and a promotion to Department Chairperson; without such a raise and promotion, we fear that Professor Thomas will leave Elm City University for another college."
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DATE: 2010/2/7 15:06:56


In this argument, the author lists a group of evidences to gauge his/her suggestion that Professor Thomas is worth a promotion as well as an increase in salary. Around this evidences are the size of her classes and the money she brought to the university .
The mayor argues that without doing so, this eminent figure will leave for other college. However, what the arguer fails to mention is the possibility that other professors may do better, the exact money she brought to the college, and the existence of other factors that may weaken the point of this passage. So the argument, though seems to be an cogent one, are in fact invulnerable.


First of all, to support his claim that Professor Thomas is well worth her salary, the mayor uses the size of her classes as evidence. However, as we know, there exist general classes in college that every students have to attend. Are some of her classes among these group? If so, the evidence can be dubious for it may be the duty rather than Professor Thomas's skill that attracts the students to class. Secondly, the author fails to maintain the exact sum of money that Professor Thomas has brought to the school. Maybe it exceeded her original salary,
can it exceed the expecting salary of $10000 in the future? There's no profe
proof of that.


Moreover, if Professor Thomas indeed has the ability of attracting students to her classes as well as gathering research fund, is there anyone who can do better? When considering promotion and raising salary, one must consider all of the faculties before finally makes a decision. If there's someone who can do better, then there's no reason such reward shall be honored to Professor Thomas. In addition, even if Professor Thomas is actually the best faculty in teaching, and that she is well worth $10000, there's still a lack of sufficient evidences that a promotion is as well worthy. For a Department Chairperson deals not only academic issues but also numerous of others. Whether Professor Thomas can maintain the duty is still suspcious.suspicious

Furthermore, the author also fails to exhibit enough evidence that without such rewards, Professor Thomas will leave for other universities. She may enjoy the teaching environment of W=Elm City University and other universities may have talantedtalented faculties themselves. So without providing detailed evidences, the argument is still lack of pursuasivepersuasive power.

So all in all, unless the mayor quotes reliable evidence indicating that Professor Thomas is indeed the best faculty of the school and is worthy of $10000 per month, the conclusion can never be safe to be arrived at. An additional description of her other ability besides teaching is also called to be obtain and the arguer had better provide information about the promising employer of this professor if she is not satisfied. Only in this way can the argument be an cogent and logical acceptable one.
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第7次作业的I 221补上~~

TOPIC: ISSUE221 - "The chief benefit of the study of history is to break down the illusion that people in one period of time are significantly different from people who lived at any other time in history."
WORDS: 582
TIME: 00:43:04
DATE: 2010/2/6 14:04:34


"The past is gone and static; nothing we can do will change it. The future is before us and dynamic..." I can't remember where I pick up this sentence, but every time when reading it, some questions are provoked, "Why do we have to learn the history, so long as it concerns only the past." The only answer I could think out is that this study help us to appreciate the present more and to create a better future, for the past, though has gone, relates closely to our current lives and something in common does exists. It is always thisthese similarities that guides us the way to further investigating history.

Despite the deverditydiversity in productive forces and idealogyideology of each era, the greatness of humantarianismhumanitarianism always exists. In nowadays’snowadays society, with the developing of hi-tech equipementsequipments, an increase threaten of war and terrorism, and the widespread feelings of loss and uncertainty,
this kind of unveiling of common good reconsile
reconcile,这里用conciliateplacate可能会更好~ the soul of every commonage and provokes further introspection of his/her spiritual world. Whenever read the story of Nightingale, a woman who took care of soldiers on both sides during the war, my heart will be touched deeply by the her humanity that the over-competition society of today has nearly neglected. The experience of a German doctor, who is willing to receive punishment in order to save the life of a pregnant woman in the Soviet Union, also moves me. By studying history and repick【没有这个词,可以用regain the softest part of our soul will inevitably help us maintain a high moral standard in today's society.


Besides the moral and ethic realms, the study of the history also contributes to our current vocations, for the failure and success of historical figures together share something in common. "Success covers a multitude of failure." Shaw's words was proved by what Thomas EdisenEdison did, who knows nearly 2000 ways not to build up a incandescent bulb before finally invent it. On the other hand, the failure of NapoleanNapoleon Bonaparte, the famous military talent, owed his failure partly to his peremptory manner and over-confidence, which may serve as a alarm in our life vocations.

In addition, history has certain routine, as reveiledrevealedunveiled,汗。。。】 by some famous historians and philosophers. The feudal society replaced the slavery society, while capitalism took the place of feudalism. This replacement was always associeted associatedwith bloody uprisings, and the French Revolution was a typical example. But can we look into the history and find something crucial to avoid such tyranny? Can we utilize this tendency in some occasion while in others, modestly change the situation a little in order to avoid some extreme? It is said that communitismcommunalism will one day overtake the position of capitalism, but why can't we combine some features of communitcommunal society(e.g. the warfare system) with the original capital way of living? To observe the history and take hold of its trends will undoubtedly serve in building a better society of both today and the intending.

So in my opinion, I can't agree more with the statement that one of the key benefits of studying history is that it helps us to find something in common regardless of the time. By recording the common good of human's soul, we do better in maintaining our ethics and morals; by studying the success and failure of the prominent ones we acquit ourselves way to be great; and by further investigating into the history tendency, there's no reason we shall fail in building a better future.
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TOPIC: ISSUE221 - "The chief benefit of the study of history is to break down the illusion that people in one period of time are significantly different from people who lived at any other time in history."
WORDS: 582
TIME: 00:43:04
DATE: 2010/2/6 14:04:34


"The past is gone and static; nothing we can do will change it. The future is before us and dynamic..." I can't remember where I pick up this sentence, but every time when reading it, some questions are provoked, "Why do we have to learn the history, so long as it concerns only the past." The only answer I could think out is that this study help us to appreciate the present more and to create a better future, for the past, though has gone, relates closely to our current lives and something in common does exists. It is always thisthese similarities that guides us the way to further investigating history. [开头很不错,与一些模板文章形成了鲜明对比,不过题目中的people概念没有体现出来]

Despite the deverditydiversity in productive forces[productivity] and idealogyideology of each era, the greatness of humantarianismhumanitarianism always exists. In nowadays’snowadays society, with the developing[development] of hi-tech equipementsequipments, an increase[ing] threaten[threats] of war and terrorism, and the widespread feelings of loss and uncertainty, this kind of unveiling of common good reconsilereconcile,这里用conciliateplacate可能会更好~ the soul of every commonage and provokes further introspection of his/her spiritual world. Whenever read the story of Nightingale, a woman who took care of soldiers on both sides during the war, my heart will be touched deeply by the her humanity that the over-competition society of today has nearly neglected. The experience of a German doctor, who is willing to receive punishment in order to save the life of a pregnant woman in the Soviet Union, also moves me. By studying history and repick【没有这个词,可以用regain the softest part of our soul will inevitably help us maintain a high moral standard in today's society.[语言方面问题不大,不过觉得太多的感情色彩有点不妥,原因有空和你详细讨论一下]

Besides the moral and ethic realms, the study of the history also contributes to our current vocations, for the failure and success of historical figures together share something in common.[有问题的因果关系,结果说的是history & current,而原因却说的是history] "Success covers a multitude of failure." Shaw's words was proved by what Thomas EdisenEdison did, who knows nearly 2000 ways not to build up a incandescent bulb before finally invent it. On the other hand, the failure of NapoleanNapoleon Bonaparte, the famous military talent, owed his failure partly to his peremptory manner and over-confidence, which may serve as a alarm[an alert] in our life vocations.

In addition, history has certain routine, as reveiledrevealedunveiled,汗。。。】 by some famous historians and philosophers. The feudal society replaced the slavery society, while capitalism took the place of feudalism. This replacement was always associeted associatedwith bloody uprisings, and the French Revolution was a typical example. But can we look into the history and find something crucial to avoid such tyranny? Can we utilize this tendency in some occasion while in others, modestly change the situation a little in order to avoid some extreme? It is said that communitismcommunalism will one day overtake the position of capitalism, but why can't we combine some features of communitcommunal society(e.g. the warfare system) with the original capital way of living? To observe the history and take hold of its trends will undoubtedly serve in building a better society of both today and the intending.

So in my opinion, I can't agree more with the statement that one of the key benefits of studying history is that it helps us to find something in common regardless of the time. By recording the common good of human's soul[soul去掉,太抽象了], we do better in maintaining our ethics and morals; by studying the success and failure of the prominent ones we acquit ourselves way to be great; and by further investigating into the history tendency, there's no reason we shall fail in building a better future.

这篇写的挺赞的,语言方面是个亮点,只是要注意主题句要体现题眼,一些表达观点的句子的逻辑关系要正确
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TOPIC: ISSUE56 - "Governments should focus more on solving the immediate problems of today rather than trying to solve the anticipated problems of the future."

Immediate problems or long-term concern?

It is a question that always puzzling us.[句子成分不完整,建议改成this is a question puzzling us in the long run] Some immediate problem that may[建议用虚拟语气] shake the basis of a government undoubtfullyundoubtedly calls for people's concern. But how about other problems? The short-term problem is easy to deal with and its efforts can soon be seen, but what about the anticipated problems? They may not so obvious as the immediate ones, [+and]one can hardly know whether his/her endeavor has been paid off. Can we stop those eminanteminent projects such as the space program, the environmental protection issues or the human gemome project simply because we cannot receive short-term revenues? [这里蕴含的对problems概念的诠释很不错]The answer is of course no.[建议将问题深入探讨下去,不要点到为止地就给个答案] Though it's of vital value to deal carefully with the current controversariescontroversies, it's as well crucial for us to pay enough attention to the long-term programs and the anticipated problem.[最好不要加long-term,有点画蛇添足]


[首段有点太罗嗦了,复述+点题即可]


The immediate problems calls for immediate attandencesattendances partly because it serves in stablizestabilize the current government. There's no perfect man in the world. The same is with the government. A nation, developed or not, has problems concerning all living aspects. The racial and the rational conflictions[?求解释], the lack of warfare in some kind of commonages, or the discrimination of [among]all kinds serve to deminishdiminish,但这里用tamper之类可能会更好:> the basic construction of our nation. Without a sufficient dealing with such problems, they may soon develop into serious displacement and even rebellions. In this occasion, no long-time projects can be maintained, for the fund as well as technologic support relies on a stable and prosperiousprosperous government. [结论和举得例子脱节]

But how can we judge the seriousityseverity of each short-term issue? Are they really serious enough that only when an immediate action be taken, can the government remain tranquil? The definationdefinition of such issues is not so clear.[分论点立场模糊,要避免] In this occasion, what we shall do is to follow the route that was guided by [chinglish]the long-time project. For with the change of time, as well as the gradualygradually solution of the anticipation problems, such issues may disappear by themselves. For instance, in some pre-soviet countries, regarding the reconstruction of some national corperationscorporations, many workers disapproved fiercely for [句子语法结构错误,]they might lose their jobs thus [be]faced[+with] an unfamiliar competition environment. Was their displacement strong enough that the newly-founded governments lay in danger? The answer was not that certain[clear]. Besides, concerning the long-term, if these old-pattern companies continued to exist, the economy of the countries can never be[去掉] boom. So in such circumstances, government leaders shall choose to follow the long-term prevision and solve the anticipation problems first.

In other conditions, however, the positive effects of a long-term [in the long run]can not [be]clearly anticipated, while there's no fierce immediate controversarycontroversy. Which side shall we lean to. I think the long-term one is the choice.[lean 做不及物动词表达了一种绝对化的概念,既然如此,第一段就不应该说shortterms的好处了,否则自相矛盾] The anticipated problem, as it is forecasted, has certain realitisticrealistic basis and without enough attention, it may develop into an emergenicemergent issue in the future. The environmental problem serves to be the best example. Until now, the neglect of it has already cause serious problems such as the hole of O3 layerozonosphere and the aberrant weather and natural disasters in various parts of the world.

So all in all, from my perspective of view, the immediate problems are the basis while the anticipated ones are crucial [basis & crucial的逻辑关系不能用while来连接,用and比较好]if we'd like to leave a better society for our descents.[descendent] When the necessity of a short-term issue is not sure, the long-term one can be the guidance. When there's no possible controversy between the two, a anticipated problem is to be dealt with first. After all, the balance between the two roots in the current situation of our diversified society.[这里又说到current的重要性,和上一段又矛盾了] And a carefully examination of each problem is needed before making any choice.

评:就说一下大方面吧,看完全文我的第一感觉是你应该是持一个中立的态度吧?如果是这样,每段分论点介绍两种不同时间段problems的时候一定要留有余地,切不可用过于绝对化的词;头尾两个中心局要简洁明了地给出中立观点,不能再只分类讨论了,否则会很难明白你的观点和立场,感觉一直在摇摆不定

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