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Issue36. The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries.
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Can an individual's greatness be decided by their contemporaries or by their descendents? I think the author make a quirky conclusion. Consider the complex character of "greatness", I prefer to say that weather the contemporaries or the descendents should be decided case by case.

At the first, I think it is necessary to define the word "greatness". When I say "greatness of an individual" I mean that someone has made some significant contributions to the nation, or to our society. Just as scientists, they bring us new technologies with which we facilitate our lives; or the artists, who make so beautiful arts with which we can live in a more colorful world; or the "heroes", without them we can not even have a peaceful world to live; and so on. The speaker says can we decide means that can we appreciate their contributions to us.

To follow with the definition, I can see that in some cases the significance of individuals work can be decided only by those who live after them rather by their contemporaries. Just take the science realm as an example, Copernicus, whose heliocentric theory was acknowledged after his deaths. For the reason that it challenged the Christian’s believes that earth is the center. In the old days, much scientific equipment was very simple that in many times people did not believe the scientists. And in most times their believes are lies on superstition. So Copernicus was fire to death by the Christians while his greatness is recognized many years late by his descendents.

More over, it is also true in the art realms that the greatness of artists be confirmed after many years. In the past, it is more important for any people to avoid starve ness than to appreciate the arts. Therefore, the person who can really comprehend arts was so rare that in many times the artists were considered to be cynical, while their works fully nonsense. A compelling example is Van Goth, when he was alive he could not even sell a photo, which lead to his death. While in nowadays, any one who talked about him will say high of him and appreciate his significance to the world of art. It is the lack of acknowledgement of the art that blind the people to recognize the greatness of artists.

However, the case that contemporaries can decide the greatness of individuals also exists. The heroes, just like Martin Luther King, can be remembered by people both live in contemporary society and nowadays. Martin Luther King, who struggled his life on the rights of blacks, brought the immediate beneficence to the blacks. Therefore, he was revered in his time and his greatness was realized by his contemporaries.

To sum up, it should be case by case to decide weather can the contemporaries or the descendents decide the greatness of individuals. The "greatness" contains a lot of things and people's level of appreciate this greatness are affect by many factors.
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Can an individual's greatness be decided by their contemporaries or by their descendents? I think the author make a quirky conclusion. ConsiderConsidering the complex character of "greatness", I prefer to say that weatherwhether the contemporaries or the descendents should be decided case by case.

At the first,maybe, “first of all” or “to begin with” would be better I think it is necessary to define the word "greatness". When I say "greatness of an individual" I mean that someone has made some significant contributions to the nation, or to our society. Just as scientists, they bring us new technologies with which we facilitate our lives; or the artists, who make so beautiful arts with which we can live in a more colorful world; or the "heroes", without them we can not even have a peaceful world to live; and so on. The speaker says can we decide means that can we appreciate their contributions to us.?

To follow with the definition, I can see that in some cases the significance of individuals work can be decided only by those who live after them rather by their contemporaries. Just take the science realm as an example, Copernicus, whose heliocentric theory was acknowledged after his deaths. For the reason that it challenged the Christian’s believes that earth is the center. In the old daysancient times, much scientific equipment was very simple that in many times people did not believe the scientists. And in most times their believes are lies on superstition. So Copernicuserror! It is Bruno who war condemned to be burn to death was fire to death by the Christians while his greatness is recognized many years late by his descendents.

More overMoreover, it is also true in the art realms that the greatness of artists be confirmed after many years. In the past, it is more important for any people to avoid starveness than to appreciate the arts. Therefore, the person who can really comprehend arts was so rare that in many times the artists were considered to be cynical, while their works fully nonsense. A compelling example is Van Goth, when he was alive he could not even sell a photo, which lead to his death. may be “for supporting example, one only needs to see to Van Gogh, the Dutch painter who only sold one single painting during his life, however after his death nearly all of his works are ranked as masterpieces ” While in nowadays, any one who talked about him will say high of him and appreciate his significance to the world of art. It is the lack of acknowledgement of the art that blind the people to recognize the greatness of artists.

However, the case that contemporaries can decide the greatness of individuals also exists. The heroes, just like Martin Luther King, can be remembered by people both liveliving in contemporary society and nowadays. Martin Luther King, who struggled his life on the rights of blacksmaybe “who leaded the American Africans to struggle for equal rights as the white” would be better, brought the immediate beneficence to the blacks. Therefore, he was revered in his time and his greatness was realized by his contemporaries.

To sum up, it should be case by case to decide weather can the contemporaries or the descendents decide the greatness of individuals. The "greatness" contains a lot of things and people's level of appreciate this greatness are affect by many factors.


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Issue36. The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries.
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Can an individual's greatness be decided by their contemporaries or by their descendents? I think the author make a quirky【?】 conclusion. Consider the complex character of "greatness", I prefer to say that weather【whether】 the contemporaries or the descendents【这里说的太含糊了, contemporaries or the descendents 怎么了?】should be decided case by case. 【开头还是太省略了,比如这个case by case完全可以再进一步交代下的,可以完整你的开头也可以引领下文】

At the first, I think it is necessary to define the word "greatness". When I say "greatness of an individual" I mean that someone has made some significant contributions to the nation, or to our society. Just as scientists, they bring us new technologies with which we facilitate our lives; or the artists, who make so beautiful arts with which we can live in a more colorful world; or the "heroes", without them we can not even have a peaceful world to live; and so on. The speaker says can we decide means that can we appreciate their contributions to us. 【定义的想法很好。不过,前面定义的还好,后面把decide定义成appreciate有点牵强呢】

To follow with the definition, I can see that in some cases the significance of individuals【’s】 work can be decided only by those who live after them rather【than】 by their contemporaries. Just take the science realm as an example, Copernicus, whose heliocentric theory was acknowledged after his deaths. For the reason that it challenged the Christian’s believes【beliefs】 that earth is the center【of the universe】. In the old days, much scientific equipment was very simple that in many times people did not believe the scientists. And in most times their believes【beliefs】 are【are去掉】 lies on superstition. So Copernicus was fire【fired】 to death by the Christians while his greatness is recognized many years late by his descendents.

More over, it is also true in the art realms that the greatness of artists be confirmed after many years. In the past, it is more important for any people to avoid starve ness than to appreciate the arts. Therefore, the person who can really comprehend arts was so rare that in many times the artists were considered to be cynical, while their works fully nonsense. A compelling example is Van Goth, when he was alive he could not even sell a photo, 【?】 which lead to his death. While in nowadays, any one who talked about him will say high of him and appreciate his significance to the world of art. It is the lack of acknowledgement of the art that blind the people to recognize the greatness of artists.

However, the case that contemporaries can decide the greatness of individuals also exists. The heroes, just like Martin Luther King, can be remembered by people both live in contemporary society and nowadays. Martin Luther King, who struggled his life on the rights of blacks, brought the immediate beneficence to the blacks. Therefore, he was revered in his time and his greatness was realized by his contemporaries.

To sum up, it should be case by case to decide weather can the contemporaries or the descendents decide the greatness of individuals. The "greatness" contains a lot of things and people's level of appreciate this greatness are affect by many factors.

【第一个问题是,你开头似乎是反对作者的观点-伟大只能由后人决定,从而得出不同case不同情况的观点。但是后面的论述中,两段都是伟大由后人决定,只有一段是可以由同代人决定,感觉上似乎力度不平均,觉得由同代人决定的情况应该再多给些笔墨比较好。第二个问题是,忽略了一个原因,就是影响人们来decide/appreciate“伟大”的关键是什么,为什么会在不同的领域出现不同的情况。如果有了这样的对于根本原因的论述的话,能够更好的证明你的观点。第三个问题是,例子之外的说理不够。导致给出的都是点,没有支撑起一个大的结构。加油啊!碱金属!】
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Issue36. The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries.
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我来啦,挖哈哈哈
Can an individual's greatness be decided by their contemporaries or by their descendents? I think the author make a quirky conclusion. Consider the complex character of "greatness", I prefer to say that weather the contemporaries or the descendents should be decided case by case.灭看明白,感觉I prefer to say那句很模糊,不知道要怎么呢?

At the first, I think又I think… it is necessary to define the word "greatness". When I say "greatness of an individual" I mean that 啰嗦了点噢,直接说greatness refers to/can be understood as…之类的就行someone has made some significant contributions to the nation, or to our society. Just as scientists, they bring us new technologies with which we facilitate our lives; or the artists, who make so beautiful arts with which we can live in a more colorful world; or the "heroes", without them we can not even have a peaceful world to live; and so on. The speaker says can we decide means that can we appreciate感觉不太恰当,不仅仅是欣赏吧,不过自己的定义嘛,看后面怎么论证啦 their contributions to us.

To follow with the definition, I can see that in some cases the significance of individuals work can be decided only by those who live after them rather by their contemporaries. Just take the science realm as an example, Copernicus, whose heliocentric theory was acknowledged after his deaths. For the reason that it challenged the Christian’s believes that earth is the center. In the old days, much scientific equipment was very simple that in many times people did not believe the scientists. And in most times their believes are lies on superstition. So Copernicus was fire to death by the Christians while his greatness is recognized many years late by his descendents.还是觉得例子完了应该有些分析的或者穿插进去也可以,整个段几乎都是一个例子有些空的感觉,感觉说服力不足,不太深入

More over, it is also true in the art realms that the greatness of artists be confirmed after many years. In the past, it is more important for any people to avoid starve ness than to appreciate the arts. Therefore, the person who can really comprehend arts was so rare that in many times the artists were considered to be cynical, while their works fully nonsense. A compelling example is Van Goth, when he was alive he could not even sell a photo, which lead to his death. While in nowadays, any one who talked about him will say high of him and appreciate his significance to the world of art. It is the lack of acknowledgement of the art that blind the people to recognize the greatness of artists.

However, the case that contemporaries can decide the greatness of individuals also exists. The heroes, just like Martin Luther King, can be remembered by people both live in contemporary society and nowadays. Martin Luther King, who struggled his life on the rights of blacks, brought the immediate beneficence to the blacks. Therefore, he was revered in his time and his greatness was realized by his contemporaries.

To sum up, it should be case by case to decide weather can the contemporaries or the descendents decide the greatness of individuals. The "greatness" contains a lot of things and people's level of appreciate this greatness are affect by many factors.
读起来还很顺,感觉挺丰富的。不过还是上文提到的问题:对于case的分析有些太少了,感觉有点像举几个特例证明一下观点就算了的感觉。最好能加入对为啥当代和后代看法不同,为什么各个领域要分开讨论,而不能概括的说所有的greatness,就会显得更有深度一些。也看起来更让人信服一些。还有however那段感觉笔墨有些少了,感觉大部分再说people after them的问题,那个comtempories的情况好像是特例一样,呵呵。 语言有个别随意的用法注意一下,I think , I can see最好用点深刻的词来替换一下。还有出现语法错误的要注意,我没给你改,好像鬼鬼都给你改了呵呵
痛快去爱痛快去痛
痛快去悲伤痛快去感动
生命给了什么我就享受什么
每颗人间烟火全都美丽了我

笑与哭都值得用力气
吻和泪都是该裱框纪念的痕迹
很乐意每段路都有陌生人同行
爱或伤害都欢呼都是活过的证据

每一天都是一个节庆


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