issue173 等待的女孩看过来！

polymathUID: 179557

这篇写的很早了！同学已经改过了！发上来再求精益求精！欢迎大家畅所欲言！
:lol173"Originality does not mean thinking something that was never thought before; it means putting old ideas together in new ways." 独创性并不是想出他人从未想到过的事情,而是以新的思维方式来考虑旧的观点.(习作2，2005/7.20) ☆☆

Does “originality” actually mean putting old ideas together in new ways,as the speaker asserts?Or is it just the meaning about thinking something that has been never thought before?I strongly disagree with the speaker, no matter what realm---social science, politics or natural science—it is in.Instead of choosing one from the above two candidates,I insist that originality is the combination of those two contents together.

At first blush the speaker’s assertation to some extent seems rationale.After all, putting old ideas together in new ways is always a kind of way leading people to pursue innovations . As our knowledge is developing at a blinding speed, a few scientist would deny to confess that their original achievements do with no relevance to the predecesors’contributions. For instance, the great physicist Issac Newton,though well developing the significant Laws of motion and universal gravitation, modestly said: “If I have been able to see further, it was only because I have stood on the shoulders of giants”.Just like Newton owing his success to the standing on the shoulder of the former giants, generally, many new inventions and ideas are the improvements on the basis of old objects and concepts. To strengthen this point, one need look no further than Watt, a British engineer and inventor who made fundamental improvements in the steam engine, resulting in the modern, high-pressure steam engine patented in 1769 which accelerated the process of the Industrial Revolution.

With respect to social sciences and arts,it seems to me that the inspiration of these greatest works can found ample bases of certain forms of prevail artistic accomplishments and elements.For example,Greek epic poet-the Illiad and the Odyseey,two of the greast works in Western literature,are generally not Homer’s own new ideas,but owe to his most gifted at perceivng and coordinating the talents and skills of others.Thus improvements, whether small or large, when gathering, are like the process in which the trickle become a stream and then the stream become a torrent, ultimately making the society to develop rapidly.

Although originality depends solely on the old ideas, it is not the mere reorganization of the old ideas in a new way, some completely new ideas coming out with no precursors are also defined as originality. To be more specific to this view,turn first consider to Einstein’s theory of relativity. After careful scrutiny and sophisticated illustration, Einstein extended Newton’s theory to high speed micro-object,on which many phenomena the old classical theory of Newton could not expain.Turn next example to the policy of “one country, two system”, due to the creative proposition by Deng Xiaoping, the great designer of China’s “open and reform” policy, Hong Kong smoothly return to the embrace of her motherland and the people of Hong Kong now still keep their original life style and enjoy more democratic rights.Such examples abound in history have prompted the human society to progress greatly. if there were no new ideas that was never thought before, the society might still look almost the same as it used to be and we wouldn’t enjoy such a modern civilization.

To sum up, originality is a very important factor affecting the progress of science,politics and arts. Thinking something no one have ever thought is as important as putting old ideas in new ways when defining originality. Both of them are the echo of creativity and both of them are the interpretation of originality.People who merely stressing the latter while ignoring the former fails to gain an all-around understanding about the content of originality.(581)

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[ Last edited by polymath on 2005-7-30 at 16:36 ]

albatrossUID: 2120071

牛顿的引言不是那么说的
荷马的史诗名字不对

polymathUID: 179557

谢谢！:handshake
但是为什么不对？ 请指出！我这可是原版！

ahqiuUID: 207682

刚才我先看了一眼， Newton是对的，呵呵
先存下来，待会儿改

[ Last edited by ahqiu on 2005-7-28 at 13:15 ]

polymathUID: 179557

谢谢了!欢迎大家的批判!吾爱吾师,吾更爱真理!
:):):handshake:)


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ahqiuUID: 207682

Does “originality” actually mean putting old ideas together in new ways,as the speaker asserts?Or is it just the meaning about thinking something that has been never thought before?I strongly disagree with the speaker, no matter what realm---social science, politics or natural science—it is in.Instead of choosing one from the above two candidates,I insist that originality is the combination of those two contents together.（既然是中立的观点，为什么写strongly disagree呢，继续看）
At first blush the speaker’s assertation to some extent seems rationale.（这像是写argu的开头，呵呵）After all, putting old ideas together in new ways is always a kind of way leading people to pursue innovations .（中心句出现了） As our knowledge is developing at a blinding speed（丰富的词汇）, a few scientist would deny to confess（不用to confess,直接deny） that their original achievements do with no relevance to the predecesors’contributions. For instance, the great physicist Issac Newton,though well developing the significant Laws of motion and universal gravitation, modestly said: “If I have been able to see further, it was only because I have stood on the shoulders of giants”.Just like Newton owing his success to the standing on the shoulder of the former giants,(和你的quotation重复了) generally, many new inventions and ideas are the improvements on the basis of old objects and concepts. To strengthen this point, one need look no further than Watt, a British engineer and inventor who made fundamental improvements in the steam engine, resulting in（这个词的感情色彩不太明确，好像是贬义，导致） the modern, high-pressure steam engine patented in 1769 which accelerated the process of the Industrial Revolution.

With respect to social sciences and arts,it seems to me（to me去掉） that the inspiration of these greatest works can found ample bases of certain forms of prevail artistic accomplishments and elements.For example,Greek epic poet-the Illiad and the Odyseey,two of the greast works in Western literature,are generally not Homer’s own new ideas,but owe to his most gifted at perceivng and coordinating the talents and skills of others.（这里好像没有写originality，这不是他的创作，是诗集）Thus improvements, whether small or large, when gathering, are like the process in which the trickle become a stream and then the stream become a torrent, ultimately making the society to develop rapidly.（有点偷换概念的意思，originality变成了improvement, 如果这么写，你最好在一开头就重新定义一下originality）
Although originality depends solely on the old ideas, it is not the mere reorganization of the old ideas in a new way, some completely new ideas coming out with no precursors are also defined as originality.(这跟你的although是矛盾的，如果我没看错的话) To be more specific to this view,turn first consider to Einstein’s theory of relativity. After careful scrutiny and sophisticated illustration, Einstein extended Newton’s theory to high speed micro-object,on which many phenomena the old classical theory of Newton could not expain.Turn next example to the policy of “one country, two system”, due to the creative proposition by Deng Xiaoping, the great designer of China’s “open and reform” policy, Hong Kong smoothly return to the embrace of her motherland and the people of Hong Kong now still keep their original life style and enjoy more democratic rights.Such examples abound in history have prompted the human society to progress greatly. （专门是例子的堆积对文章没有什么帮助，例子只要有就行了，关键是自己的看法）if there were no new ideas that was never thought before, the society might still look almost the same as it used to be and we wouldn’t enjoy such a modern civilization.（你的例子没有说明最后这句话，那么绝对，但说理又欠缺，还不如改成new idea的贡献不小之类的话，从正面说，不容易被挑到错，个人认为的，不权威，呵呵）
To sum up, originality is a very important factor affecting the progress of science,politics and arts. Thinking something no one have ever thought is as important as putting old ideas in new ways when defining originality. Both of them are the echo of creativity and both of them are the interpretation of originality.People who merely stressing the latter while ignoring the former fails to gain an all-around understanding about the content of originality.(581)
（这篇文章的例子很多，还有quotation，都不错， 不过说理缺乏了一点，不要扔几个例子在那就算完，不过还不错啦，我从来不敢写case by case的文章，不容易的说，呵呵）

polymathUID: 179557

谢谢！ahqiu :)

现在写作文，等会再回复你提出的意见！

polymathUID: 179557

:):):)谢谢指正!

Does “originality” actually mean putting old ideas together in new ways,as the speaker asserts?Or is it just the meaning about thinking something that has been never thought before?I strongly disagree with the speaker, no matter what realm---social science, politics or natural science—it is in.Instead of choosing one from the above two candidates,I insist that originality is the combination of those two contents together.（既然是中立的观点，为什么写strongly disagree呢，继续看）
我没有说自己是中立的观点呀!难道反对一个观点,就意味着中立吗?我的观点是坚持originality应该包括putting old ideas together in new ways和thinking something that has been never thought before这两方面的内容!可能是我的nstead of choosing one from the above two candidates让你迷惑了吧!这个只能进一步说明我不会单独采取一方面的观点,为我的insist铺平道路啊!

At first blush the speaker’s assertation to some extent seems rationale.（这像是写argu的开头，呵呵）After all, putting old ideas together in new ways is always a kind of way leading people to pursue innovations .（中心句出现了） As our knowledge is developing at a blinding speed（丰富的词汇）, a few scientist would deny to confess（不用to confess,直接deny）呵呵!建议不错! that their original achievements do with no relevance to the predecesors’contributions. For instance, the great physicist Issac Newton,though well developing the significant Laws of motion and universal gravitation, modestly said: “If I have been able to see further, it was only because I have stood on the shoulders of giants”.Just like Newton owing his success to the standing on the shoulder of the former giants,(和你的quotation重复了)句子上是有些重复,主要是为了过渡一下!改成Just like Newton owing his success to the predecesors’怎么样? generally, many new inventions and ideas are the improvements on the basis of old objects and concepts. To strengthen this point, one need look no further than Watt, a British engineer and inventor who made fundamental improvements in the steam engine, resulting in（这个词的感情色彩不太明确，好像是贬义，导致）多谢!改个and as a result this originality lead to怎么样 the modern, high-pressure steam engine patented in 1769 which accelerated the process of the Industrial Revolution.

With respect to social sciences and arts,it seems to me（to me去掉）好! that the inspiration of these greatest works can found ample bases of certain forms of prevail artistic accomplishments and elements.For example,Greek epic poet-the Illiad and the Odyseey,two of the greast works in Western literature,are generally not Homer’s own new ideas,but owe to his most gifted at perceivng and coordinating the talents and skills of others.（这里好像没有写originality，这不是他的创作，是诗集）呵呵!这里说的就是由于荷马史诗以荷马的名字命名,大多数人会误以为这是他自己写的,实际上他的originality包含了累世诗人的结晶.Thus improvements, whether small or large, when gathering, are like the process in which the trickle become a stream and then the stream become a torrent, ultimately making the society to develop rapidly.（有点偷换概念的意思，originality变成了improvement, 如果这么写，你最好在一开头就重新定义一下originality）
呵呵!你掰的真紧! improvements不就是originality吗?Although originality depends solely on the old ideas, it is not the mere reorganization of the old ideas in a new way, some completely new ideas coming out with no precursors are also defined as originality.(这跟你的although是矛盾的，如果我没看错的话)谢谢提醒!solely用错了!改成mainly是不是就不矛盾了? To be more specific to this view,turn first consider to Einstein’s theory of relativity. After careful scrutiny and sophisticated illustration, Einstein extended Newton’s theory to high speed micro-object,on which many phenomena the old classical theory of Newton could not expain.Turn next example to the policy of “one country, two system”, due to the creative proposition by Deng Xiaoping, the great designer of China’s “open and reform” policy, Hong Kong smoothly return to the embrace of her motherland and the people of Hong Kong now still keep their original life style and enjoy more democratic rights.Such examples abound in history have prompted the human society to progress greatly. （专门是例子的堆积对文章没有什么帮助，例子只要有就行了，关键是自己的看法）if there were no new ideas that was never thought before, the society might still look almost the same as it used to be and we wouldn’t enjoy such a modern civilization.（你的例子没有说明最后这句话，那么绝对，但说理又欠缺，还不如改成new idea的贡献不小之类的话，从正面说，不容易被挑到错，个人认为的，不权威，呵呵）
仁者见仁吧!我也不好改了!呵呵!To sum up, originality is a very important factor affecting the progress of science,politics and arts. Thinking something no one have ever thought is as important as putting old ideas in new ways when defining originality. Both of them are the echo of creativity and both of them are the interpretation of originality.People who merely stressing the latter while ignoring the former fails to gain an all-around understanding about the content of originality.(581)

再次感谢你的中肯建议!谢谢!:handshake:)偶学习了不少呢!

ahqiuUID: 207682

呵呵!这里说的就是由于荷马史诗以荷马的名字命名,大多数人会误以为这是他自己写的,实际上他的originality包含了累世诗人的结晶.

（你是对的，后来我又想了想，呵呵）

呵呵!你掰的真紧! improvements不就是originality吗?
（观点有点不一样，在你这篇文章是，呵呵）

polymathUID: 179557

Originally posted by ahqiu at 2005-7-29 15:53
呵呵!这里说的就是由于荷马史诗以荷马的名字命名,大多数人会误以为这是他自己写的,实际上他的originality包含了累世诗人的结晶.

（你是对的，后来我又想了想，呵呵）

呵呵!你掰的真紧! improvements不就是o ...

先表示一下感谢！:hug::hug::handshake

但是在这里怎么衔接一下比较好呢？困惑啊！有谁能再提一些建议吗？THANKS！
:)

dslovesljUID: 2451598

:)