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issue99. "In any realm of life-whether academic, social, business, or political-the only way to succeed is to take a practical, rather than an idealistic, point of view. Pragmatic behavior guarantees survival, whereas idealistic views tend to be superceded by simpler, more immediate options."

在生活的各个领域-无论是学术、社会、商业还是政治-成功的唯一途径就是采取实际而并非理想化的观点。注重实效的行为确保生存,而理想化的观点倾向于被更简单、更直接的选择取代。


Nowadays it is so fashionable to emphasize productiveity and results: if it works, adopt it, adapt it, and do it. Most people thereby worship pragmatism and believe that the only way to succeed is take the practical approach and that idealistic views are likely to be replaced by more immediate options. While I agree that pragmatic behavior is a must for survival and the key factor for realizing idealistic vision and dreams, there is a serious danger in this approach. The simple fact that something works does not make it right.Also, only focusing on the immediate effects might lead to a bigger failure in the future.

To begin with, the chief weakness of pragmatic approach lies in its overemphasis on the immediate effects. What is practical is defined by what works. What works is defined by the results we see right now, Apparently, what works does not necessarily mean that it is right. Consider, for instance, a student who gain a high score by cheating. Obviously, cheating is wrong although it works. For businessmen, no doubt their responsibility is to increase their profit margin n.利润率. Yet hiring child labour is illegal, although it might reduce the labor cost and increase the profit.What a pathetic sight to see godly people give up the gold of principle for the glass beads of pragmatism. The serious moral degradation in modern China well demonstrates this point.  On the contrary,Idealists would choose to sticke to priciple without a practical consideration. For them, freedom, democracy  and justice shoud be worth of pursuing at whatever cost. They never compromise even it is unfeasible. However, a pretty awesome reality requires the art of compromise: striking a balance between what is right and what "works".

Moreover, too much exphasis on practical access will hamper us from seeing the long-term interest and attaining a higher level of success.  Immidiate benefits become a measure to evaluate pragmatic behavior. Such shorted-sight behavior forms a barrier of social improvement and advancement. In the economic field, pragmatic businessman brought us the likes of Enron and their ilk, which focused solely on maximizing short-term profits, and fostered a culture of unbridled greed, regardless of the impact on their employees, customers and the public good. By contrast, far-sighted enterprise owners admit that while profitability is a key goal (as with any business), it is not the only goal.They intentionally, and with full awareness, sacrifice a portion of profit margin for big-vision, right-livelihood practices they deem important — such as being ethical, respectful, and offering something positive, unique, and worthwhile to their employees, customers, community or the world.

However, idealistic views cannot come true without taking any pragmatic behavior. Confucius, one of the greatest philosophers and educators in ancient China once said:" Thinking all day without taking any actions end up with nothing." It is well known that idealists have always been guided by ideals, rather than by practical consideration. Therefore, they mistakenly discern the true condition , overstate their ability and neglect the many obstacles on the way to the goal. The only feasible way is to crystallize one's ideals into a practical plan. Step by step, even through the efforts of several generations, the ideals can become reality.

The only way to achieve victory is combine pragmatic behavior and idealistic views.  An ideal is like true North on a compass, and it serves a valuable function whether or not true North (the ideal) can be reached. The virtue of Idealists is their continual striving for betterment.Socially speaking, it was always the prophet, the seer, the idealist, who dreamed of a world more to his heart’s desire and who served as the beacon light on the road tp greater achievement. And then the next step is to take a concreate action. Without practical action, success is still like the moon in the water.

In conclusion, pragmatism may be a good copilot, but it is an unsafe and dangerous pilot.  The true success requires the cooperation of pragmatism and idealism. Ideal acts as a blueprint; and practical behavior is like builder. Only the two work hand in hand can the skyscraper come into existence.(697words)
莫听穿林打叶声,
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谁怕!
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issue99. "In any realm of life-whether academic, social, business, or political-the only way to succeed is to take a practical, rather than an idealistic, point of view. Pragmatic behavior guarantees survival, whereas idealistic views tend to be superceded by simpler, more immediate options."

在生活的各个领域-无论是学术、社会、商业还是政治-成功的唯一途径就是采取实际而并非理想化的观点。注重实效的行为确保生存,而理想化的观点倾向于被更简单、更直接的选择取代。


Nowadays it is so fashionable to emphasize productivity and results: if it works, adopt it, adapt it, and do it. Most people thereby worship pragmatism and believe that the only way to succeed is take the practical approach and that idealistic views are likely to be replaced by more immediate options. While I agree that pragmatic behavior is a must for survival and the key factor for realizing idealistic vision and dreams, there is a serious danger in this approach这个句子?. The simple fact that something works does not make it right.Also, only focusing on the immediate effects might lead to a bigger failure in the future.

To begin with, the chief weakness of pragmatic approach lies in its overemphasis on the immediate effects. What is practical is defined by what works. What works is defined by the results we see right now, Apparently, what works does not necessarily mean that it is right. Consider, for instance, a student who gain a high score by cheating. Obviously, cheating is wrong although it works好极端的例子. For businessmen, no doubt their responsibility is to increase their profit margin n.利润率. Yet hiring child labour is illegal, although it might reduce the labor cost and increase the profit.What a pathetic sight to see godly people give up the gold of principle for the glass beads of pragmatism. The serious moral degradation in modern China well demonstrates this point. On the contrary,Idealists would choose to sticke to priciple without a practical consideration. For them, freedom, democracy and justice shoud be worth of pursuing at whatever cost. They never compromise even it is unfeasible. However, a pretty awesome reality requires the art of compromise: striking a balance between what is right and what "works".极端的例子带来的往往是unconvincing ,btw没用word检查吧?

Moreover, too much exphasis on practical access will hamper us from seeing the long-term interest and attaining a higher level of success. Immidiate benefits become a measure to evaluate pragmatic behavior. Such shorted-sight behavior forms a barrier of social improvement and advancement. In the economic field, pragmatic businessman brought us the likes of Enron and their ilk, which focused solely on maximizing short-term profits, and fostered a culture of unbridled greed, regardless of the impact on their employees, customers and the public good. By contrast, far-sighted enterprise owners admit that while profitability is a key goal (as with any business), it is not the only goal.They intentionally, and with full awareness, sacrifice a portion of profit margin for big-vision, right-livelihood practices they deem important — such as being ethical, respectful, and offering something positive, unique, and worthwhile to their employees, customers, community or the world.ts说过分注重实际导致短视~~~之后就开始讲短视的负效应,这之中是不是缺少“为什么导致短视,如何导致短视的?之间有没有必然性?”

However, idealistic views cannot come true without taking any pragmatic behavior. Confucius, one of the greatest philosophers and educators in ancient China once said:" Thinking all day without taking any actions end up with nothing." It is well known that idealists have always been guided by ideals, rather than by practical consideration. Therefore, they mistakenly discern the true condition , overstate their ability and neglect the many obstacles on the way to the goal. The only feasible way is to crystallize one's ideals into a practical plan. Step by step, even through the efforts of several generations, the ideals can become reality.这一段好!

The only way to achieve victory is combine pragmatic behavior and idealistic views. An ideal is like true North on a compass, and it serves a valuable function whether or not true North (the ideal) can be reached. The virtue of Idealists is their continual striving for betterment.Socially speaking, it was always the prophet, the seer, the idealist, who dreamed of a world more to his heart’s desire and who served as the beacon light on the road tp greater achievement. And then the next step is to take a concreate action. Without practical action, success is still like the moon in the water. 不错~最后一个比喻中文的把!

In conclusion, pragmatism may be a good copilot, but it is an unsafe and dangerous pilot. The true success requires the cooperation of pragmatism and idealism. Ideal acts as a blueprint; and practical behavior is like builder. Only the two work hand in hand can the skyscraper come into existence.(697words)

限时写得很不错啦~~~
偶得学习学习语言的说~~强!!pfpf~~
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No.1 issue99 理想与现实 寻G友互改文章
issue99. "In any realm of life-whether academic, social, business, or political-the only way to succeed is to take a practical, rather than an idealistic, point of view. Pragmatic behavior guarantees survival, whereas idealistic views tend to be superceded by simpler, more immediate options."

在生活的各个领域-无论是学术、社会、商业还是政治-成功的唯一途径就是采取实际而并非理想化的观点。注重实效的行为确保生存,而理想化的观点倾向于被更简单、更直接的选择取代。


Nowadays it is so fashionable to emphasize productiveityspelling error and results: if it works, adopt it, adapt it, and do it.good sentence Most people thereby worship pragmatism and believe that the only way to succeed is take the practical approach and that idealistic views are likely to be replaced by more immediate options. While I agree that pragmatic behavior is a must for survival and the key factor for realizing idealistic vision and dreams, there is a serious danger in this approachnot concrete, what danger? Better put like this:it is dangerous to adhere to this approach blindly. The simplemere fact that something works does notnecessarily make it right. Also, only focusing on the immediate effects might lead to a bigger failure in the future. 开头不错,清楚明白

To begin with, the chief weakness of pragmatic approach lies in its overemphasis on the immediate effects. What is practical is defined by what workshow it works and how it works is defined by…. What works is defined by the results we see right now, Apparentlyhowever, what works does not necessarily mean that it is right. Consider, for instance, a student who gain a high score by cheating. Obviously, cheating is wrong although it works. For businessmen, no doubt their responsibility is to increase their profit margin n.利润率.记下了,有收获 Yet hiring child labourspelling error,sp for short is illegal, although it might reduce the labor cost and increase the profit.What a pathetic sight to see godly people give up the gold of principle for the glass beads of pragmatism. classic, your original creation?The serious moral degradation in modern China well demonstrates this pointneeds further analysis to make it more concrete. On the contrary,Idealists would choose to stickesp to priciplesp without atoo much is better practical considerations. For them, freedom, democracy and justice shoudsp be worthy of pursuing at whatever cost. They never compromise even it is unfeasible过了. However, a pretty awesome reality requires the art of compromise: striking a balance between what is right and what "works".这句话是不是放到后面说,冲淡了主题,这一段的FOCUS是实用主义的人

Moreover, too much exphasissp on practical access will hamper us from seeing the long-term interest and attaining a higher level of success. Immidiatesp benefits become a measure to evaluate pragmatic behavior. Such shorted-sight behavior forms a barrier of social improvement and advancement. In the economic field, pragmatic businessman brought us the likes of Enron and their ilk, which focused solely on maximizing short-term profits, and fostered a culture of unbridled greed, regardless of the impact on their employees, customers and the public good.excellent speech! By contrast, far-sighted enterprise owners admit that while profitability is a key goal (as with any business), it isbut not the only goal.They intentionally, and with full awareness, sacrifice a portion of profit margin for big-vision, right-livelihood practices they deem important — such as being ethical, respectful, and offering something positive, unique, and worthwhile to their employees, customers, community or the world.good analysis

However, idealistic views cannot come true without taking any pragmatic behavior. Confucius, one of the greatest philosophers and educators in ancient China once said:" Thinking all day without taking any actions end up with nothing." It is well known that idealists have always been guided by ideals, rather than by practical consideration. Therefore, they mistakenly discern the true condition , overstate their ability and neglect the many obstacles on the way to the goal. The only feasible way is to crystallize one's ideals into a practical plan. Step by step, even through the efforts of several generations, the ideals can become reality.考虑把第一段的结尾放入这一段

In addition, or In the final analysisThe only way to achieve victory is tocombine pragmatic behavior and idealistic views. An ideal is like thetrue North on a compass, and it serves a valuable function whether or not true North (the ideal) can be reached.good analogy The virtue of Idealists is their continual striving for betterment. Socially speaking, it was always the prophet, the seer, the idealist, who dreamed of a world more to his heart’s desire and who served as the beacon light on the road tp greater achievement. And then the next step is to take a concreatesp action. Without practical action, success is still like the moon in the water.

In conclusion, pragmatism may be a good copilot, but it is an unsafe and dangerous pilotbut it is unwise and dangerous to make it the chief. The true success requires the cooperation of pragmatism and idealism. Ideal acts as a blueprint; and practical behavior is like builder. Only the two work hand in hand can the skyscraper come into existence.(697words)

Despite spelling errors and grammar flaws, I give this issue a benchmark of 5.5 without hesitation.
限时完成的吧。加油了,很PF你的说!

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:--),thanks a lot!
其实这道提太经典拉,所以写作的头天晚上躺在床上想了好久.也算打了腹稿.
还有不好意思我的word 坏拉都没检查拼写,哎错这么多,考试时就死定了.好多单词居然都错了.~~~
还有我还是超时了20min.限时还是没成功.下一片写laws and human nature,争取成功.
莫听穿林打叶声,
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竹杖芒鞋轻胜马。
谁怕!
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微冷。
山头斜照却相迎。
回首向来萧瑟处,
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嘿嘿~~在我占座的帖子里
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To 狒狒:
ts说过分注重实际导致短视~~~之后就开始讲短视的负效应,这之中是不是缺少“为什么导致短视,如何导致短视的?之间有没有必然性?”
第一个body 里有"What works is defined by the results we see right now"这句话表明实用主义看重的是直接的效果,因此没必要说明为什么会短视把

pragmatic behavior is a must for survival
must 没用错


极端的例子带来的往往是unconvincing
I think so too, 但是确实想不道好的例证,你有什么好点子吗?

there is a serious danger in this approach这个句子?.
Is there any problem? I don't understand what you mean.
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竹杖芒鞋轻胜马。
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回首向来萧瑟处,
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发表于 2004-3-26 12:10:25 |只看该作者
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[B]ts说过分注重实际导致短视~~~之后就开始讲短视的负效应,这之中是不是缺少“为什么导致短视,如何导致短视的?之间有没有必然性?”
第一个body 里有"What works is defined by the results we see right now"这句话表明实用主义看重的是直接的效果,因此没必要说明为什么会短视把

pragmatic behavior is a must for survival
must 没用错


极端的例子带来的往往是unconvincing
I think so too, 但是确实想不道好的例证,你有什么好点子吗?

there is a serious danger in this approach这个句子?.
Is there any problem? I don't understand what you mean[/B]

实用主义看重的是直接效果,这是个推论阿~~并不是公认的~~
所以仍然需要说明

must这里是名词吗?有这个说法?

这个例证~~~挺FT~我想出来的话在第一贴里就给你写上了

最后那个句子没看懂~~水平有限哦~~
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To syd:
1 There is a serious danger in this approach. danger 在于后面那句。
2What is practical is defined by what works。 What works is defined by the results we see right now.这里是句号。与后面那句分开。所以不需要改了。你认为呢?
3classic, your original creation?不是原创,是我看到的文章里的一句,觉得好就背下来了。
4这句话是不是放到后面说,冲淡了主题,这一段的FOCUS是实用主义的人。考虑把第一段的结尾放入这一段

I accept your suggestion,but it seems to be inconsistent with the para three(主体段)
5 in addition, my logic is sooooo poor, how to improve it ?~~~~~~~~~
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to 狒狒:
实用主义看重的是直接效果,这是个推论阿~~并不是公认的~~
所以仍然需要说明.

这应该是公认的把.
顺便灌水: 问一下,怎么引用文章的一部分呀? 我很弱,不好意思的说.
莫听穿林打叶声,
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[B][QUOTE]最初由 papajohns 发布
[B]ts说过分注重实际导致短视~~~之后就开始讲短视的负效应,这之中是不是缺少“为什么导致短视,如何导致短视的?之间有没有必然性?.

以下省略...... [/B]

must这里是名词吗?有这个说法?

这个例证~~~挺FT~我想出来的话在第一贴里就给你写上了

最后那个句子没看懂~~水平有限哦~~
Here, must 是名词.绝对没错.相信我,没错的,呵呵~~~~
last sentence 意思是在这个 approach存在着危险,不知道说明白了吗?
莫听穿林打叶声,
何妨吟啸且徐行,
竹杖芒鞋轻胜马。
谁怕!
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发表于 2004-3-26 12:52:51 |只看该作者
试了一下就象楼上那样没成功,先复制在按引用,然后粘贴.就搞成这样罗. 脸红~~~~~~~~~~~
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发表于 2004-3-26 13:01:28 |只看该作者
引用的命令就是{quote} 引用内容{/quote}              把{}换成[]就行了
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I accept your suggestion,but it seems to be inconsistent with the para three(主体段)
5 in addition, my logic is sooooo poor, how to improve it ?~~~~~~~~~

that's a problem, or you should cast that sentence for the consistency of the whole para.

and for logic, I think set about to argument practise will be quite beneficial.

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发表于 2004-3-26 15:32:23 |只看该作者
这篇Issue的语言真是好啊!
偶一定要好好学习~

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发表于 2004-3-27 00:28:45 |只看该作者
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[B]这篇Issue的语言真是好啊!
偶一定要好好学习~ [/B]


谢谢夸奖,以后可以互改文章啊
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竹杖芒鞋轻胜马。
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