Issue51 机井椰树，教育应当满足每个学生需求

needleUID: 158900

Issue51:
Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student.

提纲：
1．不同意
2．目的确定方法，education的目的在于培养社会有用人才
3．基于目的，education应该满足大多数人共同的需要（社会的需要）
4．灵活变通也是必不可少的
5．总结

There is a controversial justification about education that it will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student, which is somewhat popular nowadays. However, as far as I am concerned, I do not agree with this point of view. Only education satisfies the requirements of students as a whole, can it be regarded as successful.

Primarily, as a common sense, the method should be determined by the purpose. What is that of education? In my opinion, education is to teach people not only the techniques but also moral norms, by doing which, the kind of useful people needed by the society are cultivated. An education process is equal to a revolution or a modification appearing in a person's mind. Namely, being educated, students should have learned enough skills to make living and established their wholesome world outlook and sound habits before they enter the society as mature adults. It is the chief purpose of education.

So since education's goal is put on the cultivation of useful persons for the future society, it is easy to say that it should not focus on meeting the individual needs of each student because of following reasons. From one aspect, the society itself has common standards and requirements on people, for example, to be honest and to be kind. Also, the skills that students should learn to master as eligible social members in the future, enjoy plenty of similarities between themselves required by different positions and vocations. Education should obey the basic law of society so that it should choose a general way to teach students all necessary knowledge. What is more, students, most of which are adolescents, are well likely to be lack of well-round consideration, so it is nothing but irresponsible to satisfy their naive needs. To teach students only what they are interested does not seems to be but is obviously ridiculous. For instance, under the situation that the ability to read and write is necessity to everybody today, how could education system meet a student's interest to avoid learning the alphabet though he/she really feels boring? Education assumes the responsibility to try its best to cultivate students perfectly.

However, such a point does not stand for an advocacy of petrified education style. Flexibility is necessary and inevitable. As the distinctions are concerned, besides the essential common courses applied to them, students have rights to call for a content towards their own needs individually. Some auxiliary lessons should be offered to meet different interests, for example, schools should make it possible for those with interest in painting by setting such a class. Also, student's personalities should not be ignored under a united education. Outgoing students and those with excessive shyness should be treated in distinctive ways. A slight blame on the former perhaps means nothing but on the latter might be a deep hurt and leaves a long-lasting adverse impact on their psychology. What is more, the natural conditions surely desire different education methods to reach the same point. Those somewhat below the average of mental power may need more patience and directions, compared with those geniuses who are conducted in a less time-consuming way. In brief, under the premise of the satisfaction to the foundational requests of the students, education styles to meet individuals’ proper needs and interests of each student should be taken into account and exerted as best as we can.

In sum, to meet the needs and interests of each student is not the mere condition for education to be effective. What is much more significant in this case is to content the students wholly as required by the reality. Individual needs and interests are important either, however, to make the education’s goal into reality, what we only can do is set them behind. （638）


dezhi工具模考，稍稍超时（不到10分钟），算是进步：）

请拍吧！~~~

dezhiUID: 156141

There is a controversial justification about education that it will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student, which is somewhat popular nowadays. However, as far as I am concerned, I do not agree with this point of view. Only education satisfies the requirements of students as a whole, can it be regarded as[去掉] successful.

Primarily, as a common sense, the method should be determined by the purpose. What is that of education? In my opinion, education is to teach people not only the techniques but also moral norms, by doing[去掉] which,[去掉这个逗号] the kind of useful people needed by the society are [the kind of… are？] cultivated. An education process is equal to a revolution or a modification appearing in a person's mind. Namely, being educated, students should have learned enough skills to make living [make a living谋生] and established their wholesome world outlook and sound habits before they enter the society as mature adults[成熟的成年人？是不是语义重复？]. It is the chief purpose of education.

So since education's goal is [to] put on the cultivation of useful persons for the future society, it is easy to say that it should not focus on meeting the individual needs of each student because of following reasons. From one aspect, the society itself has common standards and requirements on people, for example, to be honest and to be kind. Also, the skills that students should learn to master as eligible social members in the future, enjoy plenty of similarities between themselves required by different positions and vocations. Education should obey the basic law of society so that it should choose a general way to teach students all necessary knowledge. What is more, students, most of which are adolescents, are well likely to be lack of well-round[应该是well-rounded] consideration, so it[指代不太明显] is nothing but irresponsible to satisfy their naive needs. To teach students only what they are interested [in] does not seems[去s] to be but is obviously ridiculous. For instance, under the situation that the ability to read and write is [a] necessity to everybody today, how could education system meet a student's interest to avoid [不太好，用while avoiding如何？] learning the alphabet though he/she really feels [it] boring? Education assumes the responsibility to try its best to cultivate students perfectly.

However, such a point does not stand for an advocacy of petrified education style. Flexibility is necessary and inevitable. As the distinctions are concerned, besides the essential common courses applied to them, students have rights to call for a content towards their own needs individually. Some auxiliary lessons should be offered to meet different interests, for example, [前面这么使用逗号可以吗？] schools should make it possible for those with interest in painting by setting such a class. Also, student's personalities should not be ignored under a united education. Outgoing students and those with excessive shyness should be treated in distinctive ways. A slight blame on the former perhaps means nothing but on the latter might be a deep hurt and leaves a long-lasting adverse impact on their psychology. What is more, the natural conditions surely desire different education methods to reach the same point. Those somewhat below the average of mental power[智力是这么说吗？] may need more patience and directions, compared with those geniuses who are conducted in a less time-consuming way. In brief, under the premise of the satisfaction to the foundational requests of the students, education styles to meet individuals’ proper needs and interests of each student should be taken into account and exerted as best as we can.

In sum, to meet the needs and interests of each student is not the mere condition for education to be effective. What is much more significant in this case is to content the students wholly as required by the reality. Individual needs and interests are important either[为何用这个词], however, to make[用turn如何？] the education’s goal into reality, what we only can do [The only thing we can do，不过这么说有些绝对了] is [to] set them behind.[结尾段有些绕来绕去，中间提到了个人兴趣也重要（不如说不能被忽视，让步一下算了），可到了最后一句好像又把这个（也就是body3）给否了]

jackyeahUID: 159938

今天刚好在看这篇 认认真真的改过的 不一样的观点！！
Issue51:
Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student.

508 words
------题目------
Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student.
提纲  agree
1.        should meet special needs
2.        should have interesting
3.        lealize the limitations and combine the education with special needs and interests.

With the development of the science and society, more and more people are concerning how to provide children, which is the future of the society, with an effective education. Some people argue that education should be specially designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student. I fundamentally agree with this idea because only the education designed to meet the individual needs and interests can be called a truly effective education.

To begin with, the education provided should meet the specific needs of the student. While everyone is born with different talents as well as defects, no one is identical with others in the process of learning. Some may be quick witted in math, while other in language, art or social science. According to these differences, we should provide different way of education to different children. We usually complain about the rigid education system in China, which lacks creativity and imagination and like industrial production without diversity. However, the educators have already realized this problem. As for disposal of this problem, many innovative schools have come into shape such as: art school, language school, the disabled school, etc. The direction of the education is heading for the aim of meet the certain needs of the individual.

In addition, no one could deny the significant meaning that interest has involved in the process of learning. As an old saying goes: “interest is the best teacher." Many students fail to perform well in the school maybe just because they lack interests in the subjects they study. So, interest can serve as the great force push people forward to chase for the knowledge one likes. Simply put, the great man of art, science, mathematics and physics-Vinci used to be regarded as a child with wide interests. Once he even sits on eggs to know why egg just can be hatched by hen rather than human. This example illustrates that if something interests someone, one will do one’s best to find the mechanism of that thing.

Admittedly, as contemporary society is not having sufficient resources to meet the requirements of every student, we should fulfill these goals in the limited resources. We have still can not get what we want to get due to lacking hardware and software resources. But we can stimulate students’ interest by our creative instruction if they have no interest in certain thing. In addition, although the needs of the learner can not be fully met, we can satisfy them to some extent. At the same time, if we realize all that and take actions, we might see a bright future.

In conclusion, education is the indispensable part that further develops the human race and society. If education can not meet the needs of the people, it maybe cannot be called effective education. If education goes without interest, we can not image how hash the learning process is. So, it is high time we put the need of the people and the interests and needs further in the education to create a more prosperous education system.

发到这里一起讨论 needle姐不会介意吧：）

dezhiUID: 156141

先赞一个，写的不错！
思路从全文来看比较清晰、顺畅。
用词可真丰富呀，如果我写肯定想不到那些词 :p

　　语法没什么问题，不过感觉一些标点好像用得不对，其实我也不太懂
　　句式用得很灵活，不过有些读起来不太顺畅；有些地方有汉语式思维
　　body3的论证有些乱，我第一遍读就快晕了；最好不要谈及太多，从哪几个方面论述要一目了然才好。
　　个人觉得body1、body2分开不太好，不如合起来成为body1，然后再从另外一个角度论证一下，再写一个段落出来。因为你的body1实际上是撇开了论题转去分析教育的目的，虽然是为后面作铺垫，不过我还是怕有跑题嫌疑。如果我写我肯定不这么写，怕跑题呀 :D

　　上面都是个人看法，批判地继承吧。你的基础很好，needle加油啊 :p

yifengUID: 159612

There is a controversial justification about education that it will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student, which is somewhat popular nowadays. However, as far as I am concerned, I do not agree with this point of view. Only education satisfies the requirements of students as a whole, can it be regarded as successful.

Primarily, as a common sense, the method should be determined by the purpose. What is that of education? In my opinion, education is to teach people not only the techniques but also moral norms( 也有的学生对道德感兴趣呀，我觉得这句话和题目不符), by doing which(what), the kind of useful people needed by the society are cultivated. An education process is equal to a revolution or a modification appearing in a person's mind. Namely, being educated, students should have learned enough skills to make living and established their wholesome world outlook and sound habits before they enter the society as mature adults. It is the chief purpose of education.

So since education's goal is put on the cultivation of useful persons for the future society, it is easy to say that it should not focus on meeting the individual needs of each student because of following reasons. From one aspect, the society itself has common standards and requirements on people, for example, to be honest and to be kind再说上有综合能力如何？. Also, the skills that students should learn to master as eligible social members in the future, enjoy plenty of similarities between themselves required by different positions and vocations. Education should obey the basic law of society so that it should choose a general way to teach students all necessary knowledge. What is more, students, most of which are adolescents, are well likely to be lack of well-round consideration, so it is nothing but irresponsible to satisfy their naive needs. To teach students only what they are interested does not seems to be but is obviously ridiculous.感觉有些主观 For instance, under the situation that the ability to read and write is necessity to everybody today, how could education system meet a student's interest to avoid learning the alphabet though he/she really feels boring? Education assumes the responsibility to try its best to cultivate students perfectly.

However, such a point does not stand for an advocacy of petrified education style. Flexibility is necessary and inevitable. 感觉不像主题句，太抽象了吧？不如直接说兴趣的重要As the distinctions are concerned, besides the essential common courses applied to them, students have rights to call for a content towards their own needs individually. Some auxiliary lessons should be offered to meet different interests, for example, schools should make it possible for those with interest in painting by setting such a class. Also, student's personalities should not be ignored under a united education. Outgoing students and those with excessive shyness should be treated in distinctive ways. A slight blame on the former perhaps means nothing but on the latter might be a deep hurt and leaves a long-lasting adverse impact on their psychology. What is more, the natural conditions surely desire different education methods to reach the same point. Those somewhat below the average of mental power may need more patience and directions, compared with those geniuses who are conducted in a less time-consuming way. In brief, under the premise of the satisfaction to the foundational requests of the students, education styles to meet individuals’ proper needs and interests of each student should be taken into account and exerted as best as we can.让步很好，我要学习！！

In sum, to meet the needs and interests of each student is not the mere condition for education to be effective. What is much more significant in this case is to content the students wholly as required by the reality. Individual needs and interests are important either, however, to make the education’s goal into reality, what we only can do is set them behind语气有些重了. （638）

needleUID: 158900

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]Only education satisfies the requirements of students as a whole, can it be regarded as[去掉] successful.[/B]

还是这个regard as+宾补的问题，和treat as一样
adj.可以作这个宾补，例句如下（来自Longman）：
   I regard him as my brother/as stupid/(being) without principles.

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]before they enter the society as mature adults[成熟的成年人？是不是语义重复？]. [/B]

这个应该可以吧？因为adult就是一个年龄上的概念吧？我也不敢确定了。

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]so it[指代不太明显] is nothing but irresponsible to satisfy their naive needs. [/B]

it 是形式主语，后面的to satisfy...是真正主语

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]To teach students only what they are interested [in] does not seems[去s] to be but is obviously ridiculous. [/B]

55555,什么时候把in丢掉的，我记得我写了啊！。。。
seem这里应该用第三人称单数的，主语是不定式短语to teach....

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]For instance, under the situation that the ability to read and write is [a] necessity to everybody today, how could education system meet a student's interest to avoid [不太好，用while avoiding如何？learning the alphabet though he/she really feels [it] boring?][/B]

necessity这里是“必须”的意思，不是“必需品”，应该不加a
meets是不对的，前面有could
to avoid的确不好。用and admit him to avoid learning...
feel可以直接加adj.，不过加上it也挺好的

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]Some auxiliary lessons should be offered to meet different interests, for example, [前面这么使用逗号可以吗？][/B]

应该没有问题吧？for example可以前后都加逗号，然后引起句子的，我记得

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]What is more, the natural conditions surely desire different education methods to reach the same point. Those somewhat below the average of mental power[智力是这么说吗？] B]

这个……被你一问我都有点犹豫了……应该可以吧？再问问别人的意见。

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B][结尾段有些绕来绕去，中间提到了个人兴趣也重要（不如说不能被忽视，让步一下算了），可到了最后一句好像又把这个（也就是body3）给否了][/B]

最后一句和body3的意思是重合的啊！就是说要把满足个人要求放在（满足普遍要求）后面。个人的确重要，但……更重要，所以唯一的选择是把个人放在后面。

这个结尾我自己也不是很满意，不过应该不至于混淆吧？


dezhi太敬业了！非常感谢你这么快还这么仔细的回复！！再讨论！

yifengUID: 159612

"个人觉得body1、body2分开不太好，不如合起来成为body1，然后再从另外一个角度论证一下，再写一个段落出来。因为你的body1实际上是撇开了论题转去分析教育的目的，虽然是为后面作铺垫，不过我还是怕有跑题嫌疑。如果我写我肯定不这么写，怕跑题呀 "
赞成！

　　

needleUID: 158900

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]先赞一个，写的不错！
思路从全文来看比较清晰、顺畅。
用词可真丰富呀，如果我写肯定想不到那些词  

　　语法没什么问题，不过感觉一些标点好像用得不对，其实我也不太懂
　　句式用得很灵活，不过有些读起来不太顺畅；有些地方有汉语式思维
　　body3的论证有些乱，我第一遍读就快晕了；最好不要谈及太多，从哪几个方面论述要一目了然才好。
　　个人觉得body1、body2分开不太好，不如合起来成为body1，然后再从另外一个角度论证一下，再写一个段落出来。因为你的body1实际上是撇开了论题转去分析教育的目的，虽然是为后面作铺垫，不过我还是怕有跑题嫌疑。如果我写我肯定不这么写，怕跑题呀  

　　上面都是个人看法，批判地继承吧。你的基础很好，needle加油啊 [/B]

太感动了，这是我写的最快的一篇了。我会继续努力的！

body1我觉得是必要的铺垫，但我没有敢做太多的文章，毕竟不是重点，这从篇幅上就能看出来。

body3是分了3个角度论述的，我个人感觉还挺良好，嘿嘿，我再仔细看看：）


BTW，我也就回你帖子这么一会功夫，出来发现大家……真的很感动！！！//bow一个！！大家的意见我一条一条认真看！

关于用词造句，我上次贴出来的资料里面关于修辞和句式的两篇是很有用的。苦恼于此的话可以认真研习一下，更重要的是写的时候要有意识的变句型。上T课的时候，阅读和作文的老师王令说，每3句话就要变一个句型……我当然作不到……:PPP

很多人夸我用词造句，其实我挺惭愧。因为我词汇量很不行，有时候只能想起大概，以前种的椰树经常要查字典的。这一篇相对要好，自己想着写的。用词，还是王令的话，做练习的时候，想要写哪一个词就偏不要写它，把同义词找出来，找一个最难的用（或者小词的活用，比如我今天用的enjoy）

还有就是，现在也写了不少习作了，你可以同看一遍，看看自己最经常用的词，词组，句型是什么，判断一下优劣，好的可以继续留下用，不好的就找好的代替。试试看！关键的是写的时候先开始要刻意去换，一定要有意识，培养出写3个相似的句子就觉得恶心的习惯：）。逐渐就会变成主动变句型了。

dezhiUID: 156141

哈，看来我改错了好几个地方呀，你一说我才明白，汗~~~
不过，又学到了不少东西:)

"To teach students only what they are interested [in] does not seems[去s] to be but is obviously ridiculous. "－－does not seems？？

至于necessity，我从金山词霸上找了个句子，连同词语的释义，如下：
需要；必需； 必要
Water is a necessity of life.
水是生命必不可少的。
其实这个词我用的不多，也不是太清楚，
为了确定一下，我到Google上查了一下，necessity to有499,000项（不过，这种情况包括a necessity to和the necessity to），a necessity to有74,200项，the necessity to有300,000 项，也就是说你的这种用法（necessity to）占125,800项，差别不是太大，而且无法排除a necessity to是用的必需品的意思。综上所述，你说的也有道理，anyway，如果你确定我就放弃了，嘿嘿

ps：我又读了一下最后一段，发现好像确实没有我说的那么严重。不过，有些绕的感觉，建议重新安排一下，呵呵

dezhiUID: 156141

最初由 needle 发布
[B]关于用词造句，我上次贴出来的资料里面关于修辞和句式的两篇是很有用的。苦恼于此的话可以认真研习一下，更重要的是写的时候要有意识的变句型。上T课的时候，阅读和作文的老师王令说，每3句话就要变一个句型……我当然作不到……:PPP

很多人夸我用词造句，其实我挺惭愧。因为我词汇量很不行，有时候只能想起大概，以前种的椰树经常要查字典的。这一篇相对要好，自己想着写的。用词，还是王令的话，做练习的时候，想要写哪一个词就偏不要写它，把同义词找出来，找一个最难的用（或者小词的活用，比如我今天用的enjoy）

还有就是，现在也写了不少习作了，你可以同看一遍，看看自己最经常用的词，词组，句型是什么，判断一下优劣，好的可以继续留下用，不好的就找好的代替。试试看！关键的是写的时候先开始要刻意去换，一定要有意识，培养出写3个相似的句子就觉得恶心的习惯：）。逐渐就会变成主动变句型了。
[/B]

needle真是个有心人呀！
谢谢建议，我以后也会多留心的 :cool:

needleUID: 158900

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]哈，看来我改错了好几个地方呀，你一说我才明白，汗~~~
不过，又学到了不少东西

"To teach students only what they are interested [in] does not seems[去s] to be but is obviously ridiculous. "－－does not seems？？

至于necessity，我从金山词霸上找了个句子，连同词语的释义，如下：
需要；必需； 必要
Water is a necessity of life.
水是生命必不可少的。

ps：我又读了一下最后一段，发现好像确实没有我说的那么严重。不过，有些绕的感觉，建议重新安排一下，呵呵[/B]

dezhi谦虚了。necessity作为“必须”是不可数名词，作为“必需品”才是可数名词。

结尾段的确不理想……不过结尾总是死拉硬拽的往TS上靠，我实在变不出多大花样:PPP

另外，关于遣词造句我给出的建议希望对你有用。:)

再谢一次！

patUID: 158440

不知道needle mm 什么时候考啊. 写的不错,词汇和语法等等很象5分或者 6分的作文.值得夸奖.
个人认为条理再清晰点,就更好了.
我是4.20 考,现在愁打字速度哪.

needleUID: 158900

最初由 yifeng 发布
[B] In my opinion, education is to teach people not only the techniques but also moral norms( 也有的学生对道德感兴趣呀，我觉得这句话和题目不符), by doing which(what), [/B]

这一段其实就是背景段，并没有否认学生对道德的兴趣，甚至没有下任何相关的结论啊！就是单纯的交代目的。
by doing what是错的……

最初由 yifeng 发布
[B]for example, to be honest and to be kind再说上有综合能力如何？.[/B]

可以的。可能更全面。

最初由 yifeng 发布
[B]However, such a point does not stand for an advocacy of petrified education style. Flexibility is necessary and inevitable. 感觉不像主题句，太抽象了吧？不如直接说兴趣的重要[/B]

这一个body段之所以没有写你建议的那种TS，就是因为不能单纯的从interests的角度来考虑因材施教。这一段有3个层面，一个是兴趣，一个是个性，还有一个是自身条件，学生的差异不仅仅在兴趣方面表现。

最初由 yifeng 发布
[B]however, to make the education’s goal into reality, what we only can do is set them behind语气有些重了.[/B]

结尾段不理想~~要改过

最初由 yifeng 发布
[B]"个人觉得body1、body2分开不太好，不如合起来成为body1，然后再从另外一个角度论证一下，再写一个段落出来。因为你的body1实际上是撇开了论题转去分析教育的目的，虽然是为后面作铺垫，不过我还是怕有跑题嫌疑。如果我写我肯定不这么写，怕跑题呀 "
赞成！
[/B]

据说这叫打外围：）

呵呵，我还是觉得有必要从根源上说清楚否定掉命题的原因。不然说的不深刻。一切都是为达到教育的目的服务的（也就是make education effective），如果没有这一段背景，恐怕深度不够。只能沦于普通的思路，如果都怎么怎么教了会怎么样，如果都满足了个人的要求有会怎么怎么样……个人感觉这样有点浅。

谢谢yifeng点评！

needleUID: 158900

最初由 pat 发布
[B]不知道needle mm 什么时候考啊. 写的不错,词汇和语法等等很象5分或者 6分的作文.值得夸奖.
个人认为条理再清晰点,就更好了.
我是4.20 考,现在愁打字速度哪. [/B]

4.20 BJ

我也发愁速度呢……而且，两个题库都还没看完:(

BTW:容若我喜欢。

九月爱上乒乓球UID: 151821

佩服needle 感觉时精力很旺盛的JJ
你的开头时模板吗 上次好象也是这个样子 语言没有太大问题了 建议长短结合(画龙点睛的意思哦:D) 加油