Offers[想argue 求指导][有更新 CEMFI vs Phd]

R小姐UID: 3689715

5/0/5, 一共申了20+ (phd + masters) all in econs. 剩下各种没消息可是现在略悲观 感觉gc上出了那么多 没消息的估计都是rej了
UCSB no word on funding yet. MSU 18.5k TAship for 5 yrs. BGSE half tuition waiver = 8000 euro, CEMFI tuition waive + 10000 euro stipend. OSU just got fellowship for first year. 24.8k.

现在有考虑读个master 再战 reapply next year. master一共申了仨 BGSE, TSE, CEMFI.除了TSE拒 另外两个都ad/offer了

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再次update BGSE postpone 到了31 Mar
刚刚收到了cemfi 的offer 略激动 tuition waiver + 10000 euro stipend. 其实真的很诱人...外加之前某一楼有说cemfi还算比较精品的program..今年placement又那么好 好心动 更加动摇不定了.
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昨晚刚刚收到OSU first year fellowship, 感觉很有可能会去..看大家都比较建议直接phd 听说不是大神cemfi作用有限 外加不会西语捉急 所以可能cemfi跳板并不一定能再提高多少 我还是乖乖从了吧 （再见了欧洲）

如果收到更好offer可能不会那么纠结不舍欧洲了..

谢谢各位 仍然继续等其他10+个phd 的结果 持续更新

szl112966UID: 3528627

个人感觉bgse就算全免学费也不值得楼主放弃已有的phd录取……

darcular21UID: 3000842

I highly doubt BGSE would give a damn about your PhD offer, especially it comes to funding decision.

Also, I feel OSU is a good enough place for Econ PhD, MSU with offer is also good. What if your performance at BGSE or other master places is non-outstanding? After all, BGSE have something around 80 students every year and from my experience, at least half of them are very competitive. So let me rephrase my question: What if you couldn't get what you already gotten this year?

R小姐UID: 3689715

szl112966 发表于 2016-2-24 17:12
个人感觉bgse就算全免学费也不值得楼主放弃已有的phd录取……

主要是我的主要推荐人建议我 感觉will have a better shot if do a MS in BGSE first...因为觉得还是希望去比较top的学校的....申请了的其他top 20基本没消息感觉要拒了 不过谢谢你的建议^^

R小姐UID: 3689715

darcular21 发表于 2016-2-24 17:16
I highly doubt BGSE would give a damn about your PhD offer, especially it comes to funding decision. ...

My math background is relatively weak. (I didn't have time to do a lot math courses. I only took Math Analysis, Linear Algebra I&II, Multivariable Calculus, Stats..)I guess that's the main reasons I didn't get into better programs. I guess doing a MS would strengthen my portfolio in terms of math? But I am still deciding - Just for BGSE, I need to deposit before Mar 4 if I want to go.

sleeps0ftUID: 3538795

better school会因为更好的硬件要人这个假设很值得怀疑啊

圣妈妈的照耀UID: 3409450

我刚看了BGSE的2015 placement，我很担心的是他们虽然有3个top10级别的去向，但是另外20多个人基本都是去欧洲，特别是西班牙的博士项目。当然我对这个项目了解有限，但是合理推断是他们会努力推荐最好的3名学生，其他的就是平推。我不了解你的风险偏好所以没法给你更多的建议，但是建议你要认识到其中的不确定性。

另外你还有什么学校没出结果呢？

darcular21UID: 3000842

R小姐 发表于 2016-2-24 17:33
My math background is relatively weak. (I didn't have time to do a lot math courses. I only took M ...

You don't have to reply in English.. I'm using it only because my desktop in office doesn't have Chinese mode............

BGSE has sufficient adv econ courses. But at the time you reapply if you do it next year, you will only have marks for adv micro I adv macro I adv metric I...UPF discourages first year student take Math for MRes, at least it was the case when I attended it.

You might be able to postpone DDL for BGSE for 1 week or 2 I guess?

darcular21UID: 3000842

圣妈妈的照耀 发表于 2016-2-24 18:03
我刚看了BGSE的2015 placement，我很担心的是他们虽然有3个top10级别的去向，但是另外20多个人基本都是去欧 ...

Don't worry about those top 10...They probably can already go to top 20 without BGSE at all...

For the European students, you need to consider the fact that most of them don't want to go to USA. In fact, some of them even don't want to leave European continent. Therefore, chances are the best students don't even apply for US programs. And for PhD application, recommendation letters are highly decentralized.

It is absolutely true LZ takes a very risky step attending MS instead of PhD to wait for better chances...And OSU and MSU, in my perspective, is really decent....

圣妈妈的照耀UID: 3409450

darcular21 发表于 2016-2-24 18:31
Don't worry about those top 10...They probably can already go to top 20 without BGSE at all...

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关于学校学术和申请的信息当然是以你的为准。我只是提醒下楼主要对其中的风险考虑全面，毕竟她的起点已经很高了，心气也很高。

另外我强调推荐信的问题的原因是，现在楼主对借助BGSE提升数理背景看得很重，我担心她对其中竞争的带来的风险并没有足够的认识。毕竟核心课程的教授总要写多封推荐信，里面免不了要区分学生的好坏。

eyisinUID: 3598758

R小姐 发表于 2016-2-24 17:33
My math background is relatively weak. (I didn't have time to do a lot math courses. I only took M ...

bgse只读一年的话似乎对数理背景的提升有限？（第二年的MRes不了解）

另外关于决定时间的话，之前跟小米发了邮件，对方表示可以延长到3.13。你也可以发邮件试试:)

darcular21UID: 3000842

圣妈妈的照耀 发表于 2016-2-24 19:02
关于学校学术和申请的信息当然是以你的为准。我只是提醒下楼主要对其中的风险考虑全面，毕竟她的起点已经 ...

Exactly... I would laugh in my dream if I can ever get offers from level of OSU.....

and yes your comment on LORs makes perfect sense...

PUBRYUID: 3519654

建议直接去读PhD，读个master的话不见得能够申请得更好，但是却给出了一些negative signal；以及读了master之后不确定你是否仍然会喜欢ECON...
除非LZ对自己的数理水平以及impress大牛教授的能力非常自信（能够轻松地和大牛谈笑风生），我非常建议直接去读PhD
btw BGSE的中国毕业生读博大多还是去UPF，如果LZ prefer Spain and strongly prefer 宏观，BGSE是个不错的选择

bsybenUID: 2988063

建议lz千万不要放弃PhD录取。OSU和MSU这种虽然不是top校，但是在业内的名声都很好，在某些专业方向还是很强的。所有的PhD项目录取都有很大的随机性，读一个BGSE并不一定能帮助lz增大录取概率。lz可以设想一下这样的一个场景：这几年中国学生读PhD的越来越多，lz没拖后两年就意味着有更多中国毕业生在你之前进入学界，而tenure和AP的位置就那么多，lz如果拖个几年毕业，那估计就算是Top 20也难保你能找到一个好教职。据我所知，除了几个天牛神校以外，其他各个项目毕业的placement都是竞争激烈的。10年以前估计Top 50毕业的中国人回国都能拿到顶尖教职，现在的难度已经大了不是一点两点了。

ssy1994UID: 3619921

bsyben 发表于 2016-2-24 21:27
建议lz千万不要放弃PhD录取。OSU和MSU这种虽然不是top校，但是在业内的名声都很好，在某些专业方向还是很强 ...

如果不以跳板为目的，而是通过bgse直接去upf
版主觉得这样的话大概可以和什么水平的phd想媲美(with or without funding)