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cheesechan 发表于 2016-6-2 15:51
Of course partially right,  因為1% correct 都可以叫partially right.

1. 英國大學讀3年本科，和美國 ...

666666，好详尽，谢谢，谢谢。

所以你的看法是、英国硕博合起来5年也可以看做和美国直博5年一样的 2yr coursework+ 3yr research。 然后做不做post-doctor 全看个人产量。

还请问下，找到教职一般需要多大产量呢，若是洋博士（经济金融）回国要求高么，也是要case by case么？

若是想博士毕业去业界，那读博动机是不是不太好，过程可能会很痛苦？我看一些学校对博士毕业只要求通过论文答辩，其他没强制要求。那想走业界的是不是压力轻点，然后走academic path的是不是要使劲写/发文章呢？

其实我一直还有个困惑啊，怎么那么多人喜欢做ECON PhD呢，我感觉Finance PhD更刺激，前景更好/阔呢。是因为ECON招的人多,而且可以曲线做些Finance的内容么？

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一只会说话的猴子 发表于 2016-6-3 14:08
666666，好详尽，谢谢，谢谢。

所以你的看法是、英国硕博合起来5年也可以看做和美国直博5年一样的 2 ...

1. Dont know how much publishcation is needed for academics,  but as far as i know,  it depends on:
The tier of jounrla of is on,  and the tier of the university too

2. Normally econ jornual is very slow in publication,  so it os not reasonable for uni to require journal article for graduation (else 人人都有排grad 唔到)
Well...if u like doing researchi,  it seems to fine already,. No matter u plan to do research in academic or in industry.  ROI is another issue.

3. Econ is a much bigger field then finance.  Tons of topic there and thus there are more ppl.

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-6-3 18:34
1. Dont know how much publishcation is needed for academics,  but as far as i know,  it depends on ...

十分感谢，拨云见日，顿开茅塞，注册账号才不久就遇见热/好心人士(≥◇≤)

最后请教个个问题。

回国找工作的话，英国一年 taught Master的专业很重要么？ 我听说，同一个学校的话 Finance> Econ> Mangement>Public Policy，  in terms of finding a job 这基本是按照录取难度来排的，实际上真是这样吗？

然后譬如University College London 我观察到有两个相近专业 MSc Economics和 MSc Comparative Economics, 前者比后者录取难度高两个量级吧。 但若是拿文凭回国，感觉HR看不出任何区别吧。那么如此看来英国一年制硕士就找工作而言，是不是学校优先呢？（原谅我好奇的功利心）。

若是为过渡到PhD读一年制硕士的话，那么本校Master直申PhD是不是要容易很多呢？ 我听说学校招Phd 有校内 校外两个pool的，我发邮件问过一些uni， 他们都没正面回答本校申博的优势有无～～

PS.感觉快要抢掉offer帖楼主的楼了。。囧

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一只会说话的猴子 发表于 2016-6-3 21:40
十分感谢，拨云见日，顿开茅塞，注册账号才不久就遇见热/好心人士(≥◇≤)

最后请教个个问题。

1. 找工作.........也得看你找甚麼工作.
e.g. imagine the following roles:
a compliance role in a bank
quant risk analysts in a IB
security research role in a security firm
a economist assistant role in a central bank / policy unit
so on so fore.........

it is rather bull shit to have a ranking with the precise industry and division stated.

2. Your internship (and previous experience) counts the most.

3. Easier for obvious reason (近水樓台). but how much easier.........again really depends on uni from uni

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-6-3 22:16
1. 找工作.........也得看你找甚麼工作.
e.g. imagine the following roles:
a compliance role in a b ...

Thanks a lot.

你的意思是不同专业匹配不同岗位。但我感觉你列出的那些岗位，Finance Econ Mangement的人都能去竞争呢。而且一般某一个position招人的范围不都是叫Business related major么？In this respect，the ranking is making certain sense?

In your point 2, 你的意思是实习/经验的差距要远大于学校/专业的差距？

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一只会说话的猴子 发表于 2016-6-4 18:37
Thanks a lot.

你的意思是不同专业匹配不同岗位。但我感觉你列出的那些岗位，Finance Econ Mangement的 ...

1. 不同的岡位要的skillset 不一樣，不說岡位硬列排位的都是廢話。
Choice of major should match one's career goal (or academic interest)
If u dont see the difference between the stuffs listed above,  well,  thats tine for u to know more about them first then.

2. Well...yes,  but....ur uni reputation affect the chances of internship too

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eulcauelli 发表于 2016-6-19 02:27
楼上说1. 英國大學讀3年本科，和美國大學讀4年是一樣的水平的， 因為英國中學讀7年，美國是6年

no off ...

1. "no offence所以说比如我中学上十年大学上一年，跟中学上一年大学上10年是同一个level？:)???"
<--- of course this is a joke, but the logic holds somehow. however the example you given is............basically don't exist. system can be a bit different but not that much. e.g. UK is 5(CE)+2(AL)+3(bachelor), while Australia is 3+3(second)+3(Bachelor without honurs)+1(honour year), US/Canada is 3+3+4 (this is the most common one)

for sure, the numbers here are not the duration, but the normative study period. repeating year 9 again wont make you equivalent to year 10.

list a few example: I know someone is able to transfer his AL exam (i.e. the year 13 result) into credit of (top one) university first year course (though in Canada, which is also 4 year), and thus he can take less credit in his degree, and graduate within 3 instead of 4 year.

another example I can list is: consider EU, Bologna accord. 6 year secondary school, then 3 year bachelor (and then normally 2 year master). if you have such a 3-year bachelor, and wanna apply for a master in North America, you will face some trouble (e.g. read Toronto MA Econ FAQ), similar logic for a non-honour Australia degree (since Australia separate the last year of a 4 year degree as the honour year)

last example I can give here is.........the Philippians. nearly no country recognize their bachelor as bachelor, but only recognizing their master as bachelor is exactly because of this issue. Their bachelor is just recognized as associate degree. Obviously this is not because she is a developing country, as countries nearby (but with similar system to UK/US) don't have such problem.

2. Do agree that a 1 year MSc is a bit short for research preparation (but not for professional one). hurrying for thesis, not much time for finding RA and etc......one possible solution is indeed: read 2 MSc, at the end this will still cost less than reading a 2-year master in US, normally.

well, 1 year master is the norm not only for UK, but also for it's former colony: check Canada, Australia, HK/SG.....the norm for EU is 2 year master, while the norm for US is "dont do an academics master, do a PhD directly"

3. the reason why UK don't need a GRE for applicant from their own system is because UK is small, and most UK university are well-regulated under government (since most are public university), and thus the ad com can know clearly how other universities are. (e.g. the UK government has someone in their education department to check the standard of the exam paper are similar across various universities)
while in US, it is a much bigger country, and many university are private one, from the very good to wild chicken, and thus they need a standardized exam to "calibrate" the ability of applicant from various university.

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eulcauelli 发表于 2016-6-19 02:27
楼上说1. 英國大學讀3年本科，和美國大學讀4年是一樣的水平的， 因為英國中學讀7年，美國是6年

no off ...

英国final year 应该是 6门课+Dissertation Project(算两门课）。

666666，你说的final year应该是指英国本科吧。

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-6-19 16:08
1. "no offence所以说比如我中学上十年大学上一年，跟中学上一年大学上10年是同一个level？:)???"

The third point is striking. But as I know, some Master programs in LSE do require GMAT/GRE scores, as a mandantory requiremnt, for institutions from UK and outside.

Also, I was wondering do you know something about the Language Test in Cambridge?
I mean, although Cambridge expects IETLS 7.5(all parts 7.0) for successful offer holders, there is bargining space for people who have achieved scores somewhere near 7.5, and the bargining space is to take a exam held by Cambridge.

I have searched all corners on the Cambridge Websites, trying to grasp some clues of that exam, but in vain. Do you know something about that tricky exam and where can I find information about it?

Thanks in advance.

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一只会说话的猴子 发表于 2016-7-5 18:27
The third point is striking. But as I know, some Master programs in LSE do require GMAT/GRE scores ...

1. 那是LSE (and some other school too)好學不學, 學了美帝要GRE的陋習............

2. no idea, suggest you better ask someone in Cambridge Economics already.

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-7-6 01:04
1. 那是LSE (and some other school too)好學不學, 學了美帝要GRE的陋習............

2. no idea, sug ...

Tks for suggestions.

LSE对英本也要求G的专业其实不多，一只手可以数。但其他专业尽管不强制英本提交G，可都会加上说明strongly recommend，这招其实有点阴损。 要就要，不要就不要么，又没胆明说不考G就不给录取，含含糊糊的搞这种隐藏的竞争，暗中抬高生源质量。

我看牛剑都还好，商科类专业都不强制G。反而是LSE,IC,Warwick 几个商科大校，都明目的说strongly recommend，并且还写出一个他们认为的decent score (一般是700）。我是怀疑这些学校是不是都和GMAC 搞合作敛财了。。真是十足的商业社会啊，学校也逃脱不开。。

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一只会说话的猴子 发表于 2016-7-11 18:43
Tks for suggestions.

LSE对英本也要求G的专业其实不多，一只手可以数。但其他专业尽管不强制英本提交 ...

如果
你看見LSE開多少個taught master收多少人.
再看看Warwick Business school的tuition fee
而IC居然也變了商科大校的時候

你再質疑他們賺錢開源的決心就真心有問題了.......

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-7-11 18:49
如果
你看見LSE開多少個taught master收多少人.
再看看Warwick Business school的tuition fee

66666,我其实一直不大明白Warwick Biz School学费怎么敢收这么高。 一般人看这费用不都跑去UCL了么？难不成UCL和Warwick暗下有合作，有意让普通申请者们在两校中纠结来去，使人产生一种决策上的快感。然后最后去了两者之一，收得的钱两所学校分。就好像英国一镑店和99p店总是开在一起一样。。

IC 确实是，10年前搞出一个商学院？好好的一个理工强校，商科乃至社科类专业越开越多，学费越来越贵。。

目前看，学费最廉价的是UCL了，前几年还只15,6w。然而今年已经普遍20w+了。

我不是很清楚这条利益链是怎么连接的。。学校收这么多学生，赚这么多钱，这些钱最后去向哪里，怎么分食呢？