[重要] 几个不接受机考和接受机考的学校（亲自联系结果）

加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: TheTitanic (空中梦想家), 信区: AdvancedEdu      
标  题: U. of Minnesota,Twin Citys, CS, about CBT
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Sep 20 09:03:12 2002), 站内信件

The following is just for your informati
on:
We have been advised not to accept the C
BT GRE test scores at this time.  If
you have taken the CBT test it will not
carry the same weight as the paper
based test will.  However, we look at al
l aspects of your application when
we review your file including the Letter
s of Recommendation, Personal
Statement, Resume`, grades, course work,
major and the Institution which you
received your degree from.  Also, we loo
k at any research work that has been
completed.  The GRE  exam is only one co
mponent of the total picture even
though a review will not be completed wi
thout the official GRE General test
scores in your file.  
Thank you for your interest in our progr
am.


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加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: cyos (长乐未央), 信区: AdvancedEdu      
标  题: 重要消息：UMR不要机靠成绩！！！
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Tue Sep 17 09:17:35 2002), 转信

整个学校都不要，这是我从学校研究生院小蜜处获得的信息：
Thank you for your kind interest in UMR!!  It is true that you will need to
take a P.B.T GRE in order to apply.  You may take the GRE in November as the
deadline for Fall03 is 06/01/03.

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kmngUID: 46975

以下是我问过的结果：
接受的：Michigan, Duke, Cornell, Columbia, Wharton, Kellogg,
USC, Texax A&M, U. of Maryland, Boston College,PSU

不接受的：Carnegie Mellon, Yale.

正在考虑的：NYU

kmngUID: 46975

yoyocat

2rd,i want to know whether GRE score on CBT(computer based test) is
still
accepted by ur department or not?

------------------------------------------
You will need to take the paper-based test.


还有这句话什么意思啊？
Unless you already hold a MS degree it will be necessary to apply for
the MS
program here. Upon completition of the MS you can apply for PhD
studies.


是不是我必须hold MS degree才能申请它的MS？

kmng
就是说你想申请PHD的，必须有MS

kmngUID: 46975

我在email中写道：
...
I would like to tell you I took GRE general test on Aug. ** and scored 23**(verbal:**,analytical:**,quantitative:**). I know the score is good enough for my application to Dept. of Physics, Stanford Univ.

However, what makes me feel a bit nervous is that GRE score of Computer Adaptive Test(CAT or CBT, exactly the kind I took) would not be accepted when it is time for me to apply in the coming year! That is because, you know, since Educational Testing Service(ETS) announced(unfortunately, in this August during my sprint for GRE) to suspend CBT in China due to the consideration on safty of test questions(sees http://www.gre.org/pbtfaq.html), some departments in some universities, e.g., Havard, Cornell, E.E. in UCLA, UIUC, etc., proclaimed CBT would no longer be acceptable for application for academic year of 2003 or later. I wonder if the admission policy of Stanford, especially your department, has already had some changes as to the validity of CBT GRE score for application. Also, could you tell me if the situation will be different when I apply in the next year, which forces me to re-take GRE for the paper-based version?
...

Stanford教授在回复中说：
...
I have spoken with the colleagues in the physics department about your question. The chairman of the committee said that you should only take the Physics GRE.
...
You should apply through the official channel. This is required of all students, just that you use your existing general GRE, no need to take additional one. I think that you need TOEFL.
...

教授是admission committee的vice chairman,他的担保没问题。
这基本上说明最近一年内Physics of Stanford的policy不变：接受CBT。
但有一点保留，不知道他的话是personal还是official的，因为我是被推荐到他那去的。

samuelxUID: 71705

The Department of Computer Science at Washington University will not accept the
computer-based general GRE scores nor the computer science subject GRE given in
China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Korea.

ieeeifUID: 104153

I think different program has different policy. in the universities you listed above, only uni.of minesona doesn't accept CBT, other uni. all accept CBT according to my connection with their department.My major biomedical science.

kmngUID: 46975

重要] 关于不接受机考的学校!!!!
我不得不承认我们中国人太聪明了.

但我希望那些聪明的精英们不要在找出一个个的拒绝接受机考的学校. 因为你们的努力已经找出了很多的学校,当然也会有更多.

包括你们使用CRAZYMAIL来把学校横扫一遍.

但是我从自己的角度来考虑,我不建议你们这样做.因为实际上存在这样一种可能: 本来那些学校并没有考虑拒绝机考，但你们一再的努力催促，导致别人开始认真考虑这个问题。打个比方说：大家问的实际上都是一些教学秘书，这些人实际并没有决策权。他们只能请示上级。而多次的请示完全有可能导致这些上级进行认真的考虑，然后得出大家不想见到的结果。

也许老美未必有你们聪明，也许他们并不想那么麻烦，也许一个两个的问答并不一定会引起他们的考虑，这样他们完全有可能一视同仁对待机考和笔考，但你们的几十次，几百次的问。如果是你，想必也要仔细考虑了，就如同你们在报考机考发布的一些烂消息，最后不都解决了，你们在那么多的MAIL，那么多的电话有什么作用吗？

不要以为你的行为只与你一个人有关，它完全可能关系到其他很多人的利益。而你的行为可能侵害到别人的利益，就如同你们疯狂的索要学校资料，实际上有些学校已经说明不给国际学生寄资料了，这就是这些前辈的功劳吧。

我再次建议，不要在做那些无聊的事，同时却以为自己是英雄。那些损人却不利己的事，少些也罢

一休哥UID: 64026

这个学校的心理学专业说 接受国庆前的机考成绩，真有意思，已经停考了，哪还有机考成绩呢？原话如下In response to your message, the Department of Psychology will accept computer-based GRE scores prior to October 1, 2002 from China.  Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

一休哥UID: 64026

我的帖子呢？怎么不见了？

难道是我有不同观点 所以被删除了？
可是 无论怎么样？university of wisconsin-madson 的心理学系就是接受CBT（2002年10月1号前的 都接受）！！！！！！！！！！他们亲口告诉我的！专业不同 政策也不同~

marfrogUID: 56429

真是欲哭无泪啊！！

leo-liuUID: 48994

求求各位别再做蠢事了，别发什么邮件问要不要CBT了，其实人家根本可能没在乎，自己越抹越黑！

加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: zhutinghere (主内平安), 信区: AdvancedEdu      
标  题: BME和ME接收机考的学校（V1.01)
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Thu Sep 26 08:22:12 2002), 站内信件

BME:
Gatech
UCB明确表示两者等同对待(no preference or distinction)
UPenn
UCSD

ME:
Stanford表示会等笔试成绩出来
UMich
Yale表示会等笔试成绩出来


--
She says there is a ghost in the garden,
and I'll join him.


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加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: lexiking (营长), 信区: AdvancedEdu      
标  题: 各学校就CBT回信详细内容
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Sep 27 19:57:53 2002), 站内信件

1)UC Berkely
ME
        Dear Xiao,

        We will accept computer-based GRE scores taken before October 2002.


        Sincerely,

        ME Student Services

Civil
        Thank you for your interest in graduate study in Civil and Environmental
        Engineering (CEE) at the University of California, Berkeley.

        If you have already taken the general GRE test since October 1997, you do
        not need to take the new version of the General GRE Test.  We will accept
        the computer-based test or the paper-based test.

        Academic Affairs Office
        Civil and Environmental Engineering
        University of California, Berkeley
        750 Davis Hall, #1714
        Berkeley, CA  94720-1714

Bioengineering
        Hello Xiao:

        Graduate Record Exam (GRE) and TOEFL: All applicants must take the general test of the Graduate Record Exam (GRE). We

        do not  require the Subject Test or a writing test. Test scores cannot be older than 5 years old from the date of      

expected admission (i.e. 1998 for Fall 2003 admission). The department code for the GRE is 1603. Additional     information

on the GRE can be obtained at: http://www.gre.orgor (609) 771-7670.

        ~Adriana


2)Rensselaer(RPI)

        Thank you for your interest in Rensselaer.

        Rensselaer is accepting computer based test scores, unless ETS informs us
        that a particular test date or individual test is questionable.

        MJ Rissberger

3)University of Hawaii at Manoa
        It is still available.

        Panos D. Prevedouros, Ph.D.
        Associate Professor and Graduate Program Chair
        Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
        University of Hawaii at Manoa

4)University of Washington
AE
        Dear Xiao Lu,
        It is not necessary to re-take the GRE.  We are accepting past GRE CBT
        scores.  In any case, the GRE is only one part of the application that our
        graduate committee reviews.
        Sincerely,
        Wanda

Bioengieering
        The CBT test score will be acceptable for review for our graduate
        admissions.

        Best,

        Andrew

        Andrew Ekblad
        Student Services
        Department of Bioengineering
        University of Washington

civil
        Dear Xiao Lu:

        Our university will accept computer-based GRE scores taken in
        China before October 1, 2002.


        Sincerely,



        Graduate Secretary
        Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
        University of Washington
        Box 352700
        Seattle, Washington  98195-2700  U.S.A.

5)UC davis
Dept of Applied Science
        Unfortunately, our university is NOT accepting computer bases scores.
        
        Dee Kindelt
        Dept of Applied Science
        3001 Engineering III
        University of California
        1 Shields Ave
        Davis, CA 95616

6)Utah
        Hi,
        You are welcome to send the computer-based GRE result to us.

        Sincerely,

        University of Utah
        International Admissions
        Phone(801)581-3091
        Fax (801)585-7864

7)Arizona State University
        We definitely prefer paper-based GRE. However, we do not reject
        computer-based score, so it is your decision whether or not you want to take
        it again. Thanks.  

        Xinrong Fan
        Graduate Academic Advisor
        Dept. of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
        PO Box 876106
        College of Engineering and Applied Sciences
        Arizona State University
        Tempe, AZ 85287-6106

        (480) 965-4979
        (480) 965-1384 fax

8)University of Wisconsin-Madison
ME
        We will accept.

        Linda S. Aaberg
        Mechanical Engineering Department
        Rm. 243 ME Bldg
        University of Wisconsin-Madison
        1513 University Avenue
        Madison, WI   53706
        Office (608)262-0666

Fax (608)265-2316

9)SMU
        you may submit the GRE  CBT scores.  however, it is up to the dept to decide
        if they feel the test has been compromised

10)duke
        The Duke University Graduate School is aware that recent improprieties have
        occurred in China, Taiwan, and Korea that have resulted in the computer
        based testing (CBT) program for the GRE being suspended in those countries.
        While we will still accept CBT scores from tests taken prior to October 1,
        2002, we encourage you to take the paper-based test if at all possible to
        ensure the legitimacy of your scores.

11)Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
        Your computer-based test scores will be fine and we will accept them.

        Terri Gosnell
        Administrative Assistant
        Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
        Office of Research & Graduate Studies
        Campus Box 26
        5500 Wabash Ave.
        Terre Haute, IN 47803
        812-877-8885
        812-877-8061

12)UCSD
        Yes, but at the discretion of the department you are applying to.  The
        Economics department is only accepting PBT

13)University of South Carolina
        The Graduate School at the University of South Carolina will continue to
        accept computer-based GRE scores from Taiwan, China, and South Korea.
        If you have taken the CBT prior to September 30, 2002, you will not need
        to retake the paper-based test.  

14)MIT
ME
        Dear Applicant,
        The GRE general exam is a requirement for all applicants.  The paper based
        exam is the preferred and acceptable form.  However, If you choose not to
        take the paper-based exam, that is your choice.  Please keep in mind that
        the GRE results are included in the total group of pieces in an application
        for which an equation is derived.  That equation provides us with a
        numbering system for applicants.  Having the GRE scores not included in
        this equation will most probably put your application in a lower
        grouping.   While the electronic GRE's you submit may be reviewed, they
        will not be included in that equation for our ranking purposes.  The TOEFL
        exam is also required for all non-US students whose native language is not
        English.

15)University of California, Irvine
        For Fall 2003 admission consideration, we will accept
        any GRE (General Test) score that the Educational
        Testing Service reports to us.


        John Sommerhauser
        Graduate Student Affairs Counselor
        The Henry Samueli School of Engineering
        University of California, Irvine

16)Rutgers
        As far as I know, Rutgers will still accept the scores.  I have not heard anything different

17)utexas
        Thank you for your interest in the University of Texas at Austin. We
        will continue to accept the results of the computer based test scores
        reported to us by the Educational Testing Service.

        We wish you good luck in your future endeavors.

        The Graduate and International Admissions Center

ASE/EM
        Dear Sir,
        It is my understanding that the computer based testing will no longer be available to students testing now.  If you     

have already taken the GRE, you can request your current scores be sent from the testing center.  
        Sincerely,
        Nita

        Nita Pollard
        Graduate Program Coord. II
        ASE/EM
        WRW 215D
        512-471-7595
        Fax: 512-471-3788

18)purdue
        The Graduate School's assistant dean suggests that you re-take the GRE
        general test (using the paper version) this year.

ME
        Yes, we will review applications with the computer-based GRE scores and only
        if the scores are verified by ETS.  The graduate committee encourages students to
        retake the test (paper) if you want your application to be taken seriously.
        Ms. Chris Kitterman, ME grad office     

19)University of Pittsburgh
BME
        We need an original copy of the GRE and TOEFL score to complete your
        application materials.


        Lynette Spataro
        University of Pittsburgh
        Department of Bioengineering
        749 Benedum Hall
        Pittsburgh, PA  15261
        412-624-6445 (Voice)
        412-383-8788 (Fax)

20)cornell
civil
        Yes, we will accept the computer-based GRE score if you cannot retake the
        test.  It appears that the problem is confined to the verbal portion of the
        GRE only.  Since CEE requires a minimum TOEFL score of 600 (PBT)/250 (CBT)
        for admission, we will use that as our basis for determining English
        ability, and no exceptions to those scores will be made.  And, as always,
        our decisions are based on a review of all materials requested with the
        formal application, not just GRE.  Please note that this is CEE's decision
        only; other Fields of Study at Cornell may not accept the computer-based
        GRE, so all applicants to Cornell should check with the Field they intend
        to apply to for that Field's GRE policy.

        
        Patty Apgar
        Graduate Program Coordinator
        Civil & Environmental Engng.
        College Systems Engineering Program
        219 Hollister Hall, Cornell University

21)Carnegie Mellon University
        Dear Xiao Lu:

        In light of the discovery of a recent security breach and the ETS decision to suspend the CBT test in four Asian        

countries, computer-based (CBT) GRE results will no longer be accepted from the countries of Hong Kong, Taiwan,
        China and Korea.  Only paper-based tests, conducted after October 1, 2002 will be accepted for this year's admission   

season from these countries. CBT
        GREs from other countries appear to not be part of the
        security breach and will be accepted as usual.

        Best Wishes
        Graduate Admissions

22)UIUC
        Your GRE score will be accepted.
        Sandee Moore

Civil
        Although there is conflict regarding the CBT in China,
        we will still accept the CBT which means you can submit the CBT
        and avoid taking the PBT
        Have a good day

ECE
        We will accept the CBT GRE.

23)University of Arizona
AE/ME
        We currently still accept the computer based GRE scores.

        CARPE DIEM AND ALL THAT JAZZ!
        Barbara A. Heefner
        The University of Arizona
        Dept. of Aerospace and Mechanical Engr.
        1130 N. Mountain
        PO Box 210119, Room N705
        Tucson, AZ  85721-0119
        (520) 621 4692

24)University of Minnesota
        Applications with computer based GRE scores will be viewed as incomplete.  We
        will only review application with the paper based scores.

25)Southern Methodist University
        In reference to your question regarding the recent decision by ETS to change
        to the paper based GRE scores as opposed to the Computer Based due to their
        having determined there may have been some cheating going on, please be
        aware of the following.

        You may submit the GRE scores you currently have.  Should the department, at
        the time they review your application, deem it necessary, they may request
        you retake the GRE.  

        This is not a new policy.  It is not merely due to the decision ETS made, it
        has always been the policy of Southern Methodist University.  


        Krys Benson
        Southern Methodist University
        School of Engineering
        Executive and Graduate
        Admissions Coordinator
        (214) 768-1458 (phone)
        (214) 768-3778 (fax)

26)University of Florida
BME
        Xiao,

        We will still use the GRE tests to determine applicants applying to our
        Department and as far as I know the University.  Please visit our web site:
        www.bme.ufl.edu for important information and critical dates.  You can
        follow the prompts and apply on line as well.  All the forms  you need are
        available on our web site.  Please email me if you have any further
        questions.

        Thanks,

27)Kgi
        Dear Xiao Lu:
        You need to contact the Educational Testing Service (ETS), which administers
        and regulates the GRE.  If they have invalidated the test, then they will
        not send the scores to a school.  If this is the case, then you will have to
        retake the GRE in order to apply to our program.  If they have not
        invalidated the test, then you should be able to request the scores be sent
        to us.

        Sincerely,
        Leslie Rusch

        Leslie Rusch
        Assistant Director
        Student Services
        Keck Graduate Institute of Applied Life Sciences
        535 Watson Drive
        Claremont, CA 91711
        www.kgi.edu
        909/607-8590
        fax: 909/607-8086

28)Iowa State University
        If we can receive the official score from ETS, then we will accept that
        score.

        Thank you,

        Graduate Admissions
        Iowa State University - 100 Alumni Hall - Ames IA  5001
ME
        Yes, CBT test score is still available, but we need to have official records
        of your GRE and TOEFL scores.
        Patti Boone
        Graduate Secretary
        Mechanical Engineering
        Iowa State University
        2025 Black Engineering
        Ames, IA  50011-2161


29)Stanford
AE
        Hello Xiao Lu:

        You do not need to take the GRE again for Stanford because we accept the
        computer based test.

        Best regards,
        Nandita Pakrasi
        Aero/Astro Student Services, Stanford University

30)Northwestern University
ME
        Dear Xiao Lu:
        We have not yet decided on how to handle GRE CBT test scores.  In
        general, we would prefer to see authentic test scores that have not
        been compromised by this unfortunate incident. That is, we would
        prefer to see GRE PBT tests for the forseeable future.

        Sincerely,
        Sridhar Krishnaswamy

31)Wustl
        The Dean's office of the School of Engineering will not accept the
        computer based test from China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, or Korea. Since the
        deadline for applications for fall 2003 is Feb. 1 2003, there should be
        time to take the paper based test.

        Shirley Eisenhauer
        Graduate Admissions Coordinator

32)Arizona
        Hello.  Our university accepts exam scores that are sent to us by the
        Educational Testing Service.  We do not accept xeroxed copies of any exam
        report.

        ETS has sole responsibility for determining whether scores are authentic;
        our department has no decision in this matter.


33)The Chinese University of Hong Kong
        Dear Applicant,

        Thank you for your interest in our postgraduate programme. GRE CBT test
        score is still accepted now.

        Regards,
        Jasmine Wong
        Graduate School
        The Chinese University of Hong Kon

34)University of Michigan
BME
        If you have already taken the GRE test, we will accept the scores.  If you
        have not taken the GRE test yet, you will need to wait until November 2002
        (paper-based test) to take it.  Please contact me if you have any
        questions.
        Thank you.

35)PSU
        Dear Xiao,

        The CBT GRE is still acceptable.

        Terrie Young
        Staff Assistant










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加菲熊UID: 103463

发信人: lexiking (营长), 信区: AdvancedEdu      
标  题: 关于CBT各学校各学校的态度（更新至19:55)
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Sep 27 19:56:05 2002), 站内信件

经过本人写信询问，已回复的学校对于CBT态度可大致分布如下，出于对大家的负责，
我在下一个帖子中把所有信函内容贴上。
有几点请大家注意：
1）回信有的是系，有的是学校，我都已经注明。至于整个学校招生政策的统一性，
请大家自己斟酌。
2）从阅读信函中可以得知：很多学校只是认为CBT停考，至于CBT中漏题情况是否被他们考虑，
各个学校反应不同，有的还在讨论中。

如果有问题可以向本人询问。
希望大家在讨论这个问题时对自己所说话的真实性负责，不要煽风点火。
值得欣慰的是：接受机考的学校名单正在增长中。
此名单如果大家需要我会及时更新。
谢谢


明确接受
Stanford
UC Berkely
UIUC
University of Wisconsin-Madison
cornell
University of Michigan
PSU
Rensselaer(RPI)
Utah
utexas
University of California, Irvine
University of Arizona
Rutgers
University of Hawaii at Manoa
University of Washington
SMU
Iowa State University
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
UCSD(except economics)
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University of Florida
Kgi
The Chinese University of Hong Kong

明确不接受
UC davis
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University of Minnesota
Wustl

接受但建议笔考
Arizona State University
duke
MIT
purdue
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