请问英国的牛津剑桥相当于美国的多少名？

dongdongmanUID：2445476

The world's most prestigious universities （作者是一美国学者）

The world's most prestigious universities. The question, what exactly is prestigious. Most expensive? Well then Harvard and Oxford obviously take the cake. But now, you can't say what exactly is the most prestigious University, because each University has it's ups and downs. Different programs are better at different universities.

Overall, the best universities are said to be, Harvard, Oxford, Yale and Standford. These four still remain to be the best and top schools to go to. But really would you go to them even if they didn't specialize in what you were going into. For instance, if you wanted to go into Mathematics, you wouldn't go to Oxford. Well you may, however that would be useless...albeit I'm sure they have a great math program, but MIT or Waterloo would probably be a better choice for mathematics.

Prestigious has ended, obviously Harvard, Standford and Yale are the top still for the U.S. Canadian Universities tend to be Queens, McGill and Toronto. Around the world, Oxford (UK), Aligar (India) and Tokyo(Japan) are some of the best Universities abroad.

However, for Law, you wouldn't go to an institute for technology (MIT for instance), but you'd want to go to Harvard.
For Mathematics and Computers, Waterloo and MIT are the Universities to aim for in this case.
Interested in literature and English? Oxford or Yale it is.
Business student? Queens in Canada, as well as Yale.
Medicine? Well nearly everywhere has a great one. Canada's McGill and McMaster.

Although I've missed quite a few schools, especially the abroad ones, My point is prestigious universities don't exist. It varies and depends on what you're going into. Prestige exists, however only if you're going to the best university for what you're studying.

[ 本帖最后由 dongdongman 于 2008-2-12 00:28 编辑 ]

dongdongmanUID：2445476

没事看看老美们对牛剑的评价吧！

http://talk.collegeconfidential. ... iversity-world.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/questio ... 070131053939AATGYfx

dongdongmanUID：2445476

老美的世界大学排名，在美国很有影响力。

Newsweek

Aug. 13, 2006 - In response to the same forces that have propelled the world economy toward global integration, universities have also become more self-consciously global: seeking students from around the world who represent the entire spec­ trum of cultures and values, sending their own students abroad to prepare them for global careers, offering courses of study that address the challenges of an inter­ connected world and collaborative research programs to advance science for the benefit of all humanity. To capture these developments, NEWSWEEK devised a ranking of global universities that takes into account openness and diversity, as well as distinction in research.


We evaluated schools on some of the measures used in well-known rankings published by Shanghai Jiaotong University and the Times of London Higher Education Survey. Fifty percent of the score came from equal parts of three measures used by Shanghai Jiatong: the number of highly-cited researchers in various academic fields, the number of articles published in Nature and Science, and the number of articles listed in the ISI Social Sciences and Arts & Humanities indices. Another 40 percent of the score came from equal parts of four measures used by the Times: the percentage of international faculty, the percentage of international students, citations per faculty member (using ISI data), and the ratio of faculty to students. The final 10 percent came from library holdings (number of volumes).


Here is our ranking:


1. Harvard University

2. Stanford University

3. Yale University

4. California Institute of Technology

5. University of California at Berkeley

6. University of Cambridge

7. Massachusetts Institute Technology

8. Oxford University

9. University of California at San Francisco

10. Columbia University

11. University of Michigan at Ann Arbor

12. University of California at Los Angeles

13. University of Pennsylvania

14. Duke University

15. Princeton Universitty

16. Tokyo University

17. Imperial College London

18. University of Toronto

19. Cornell University

20. University of Chicago

AnomalyUID：2449494

dongdongman 是不是刚刚被 oxbridge 录取?...................;)

dongdongmanUID：2445476

评价英美名校，不能以中国人的观点为主，应该参考一下英美人士的观点。

相比英美人士，中国人在名校读书的相对很少，而且都集中在理工类的专业，对人文社科类的了解太少。

牛津本来就是Arts——Based的大学，强项是政治，哲学，法律，宗教，文学。 比如哲学系，牛津的哲学是和哈佛一个级别的。理工类的科目在牛津内部的地位本来就很低。牛津以培养布莱尔，克林顿，布托，昂山素姬，辛格，默多克等政经名人为主，根本就不是培养科学家的地方。

剑桥主攻基础科学研究，如霍金等，应用科学也不是重点。

大家非要拿牛剑的计算机，工程说事真是搞笑。牛剑这些专业本来就是弱项。就像拿耶鲁的计算机和MIT的计算机比一样搞笑。

国际学术界公认英国的学术界重理论，美国的学术界重应用。

英国的名校也就牛剑LSE是世界名校，其他学校都一般。

英国的TOP10和美国的TOP10没有可比性，英国就100所大学。美国有3000所大学。

英国名校录取标准相对低，不能说明它的学术实力低。

一个是你掏钱，一个是人家掏钱，你说谁的标准高？

美国签证已经松动了。中国人也可以自己掏钱读美国名校了。鱼龙混杂是很快的事。去年不就很多水平很烂的同学去了美国的顶尖名校吗？秘诀就是人家自己掏钱读热门专业。最多过两三年，美国的名校对中国人的录取标准就差不多了。

香港和台湾就是个很好的例子，他们没有签证和资金问题，你看一下美国名校的香港台湾的烂人是不是N多。香港台湾有钱人的子弟哪个不是哈佛，耶鲁，哥大。当然人家也不会去读生物，化学的PHD。都是读热门专业为主。

因为钱和签证的问题，有多少大陆的精英只能屈居美国的二三的学校。所以感觉美国的名校高不可攀。

美国录取标准目前比英国高主要是资金和签证的问题。但这两个问题很快就要解决了。

[ 本帖最后由 dongdongman 于 2008-2-12 01:39 编辑 ]

cometousUID：2457541

牛剑还是牛呀！

希望日后哈佛，耶鲁的校领导都是从清华，北大毕业的！:)

lawrence1984UID：178326

一句话难得说清楚，没什么可比性

cometousUID：2457541

以前看过美国教授写的文章，指出亚洲人就爱关心大学排名，非要分出个一二三。

他认为这是因为亚洲的等级观念造成的影响。

也是亚洲人长期受压迫，渴望上升的体现。

说得是很有道理呀。

zjlt3UID：2139331

照你们这种排法，耶鲁也估计十名开外了。一个大学的声誉是和很多因素有关的。
牛剑的理工是不行了，但文学，历史什么的还是很牛的。耶鲁不也就靠文科和法学院在支撑么。

jinchekerUID：146527

:( 比过去，比过来，你能读吗？有意义吗

DidaViUID：2352006

评价英美名校，不能以中国人的观点为主，应该参考一下英美人士的观点。

相比英美人士，中国人在名校读书的相对很少，而且都集中在理工类的专业，对人文社科类的了解太少。

牛津本来就是Arts——Based的大学，强 ...
dongdongman 发表于 2008-2-12 01:31

楼上有道理。跟专业有关！

kiralovelyUID：2363419

英校有点水。

workerUID：206253

我个人太孤陋寡闻了，居然有这么多人会蔑视牛剑！！我一直认为他们是世界顶尖的至少是前5/6名,现在还是这样认为。早知道那么容易进去，我就去试试。

南淮四月UID：2215529

钱吧 钱的问题多一些

fallenangeUID：3007569

个人有个人的看法