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发表于 2012-12-15 15:50:03 |显示全部楼层
我不知道怎么说好,我就举个例子然后各位评价一下我的错误吧。。还有希望有人能够说明下正确的思考方法吧。。谢谢大家。。

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West Egg VS. Garbage Landfill
The following appeared in a memorandum written by the chairperson of the West Egg Town Council.
"Two years ago, consultants predicted that West Egg's landfill, which is used for garbage disposal, would be completely filled within five years. During the past two years, however, the town's residents have been recycling twice as much material as they did in previous years. Next month the amount of recycled material—which includes paper, plastic, and metal—should further increase, since charges for pickup of other household garbage will double. Furthermore, over 90 percent of the respondents to a recent survey said that they would do more recycling in the future. Because of our town's strong commitment to recycling, the available space in our landfill should last for considerably longer than predicted."
Write a response in which you discuss what specific evidence is needed to evaluate the argument and explain how the evidence would weaken or strengthen the argument.
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Evidence:
1.        Two years ago, Consultants predicted that West Egg’s landfill would be filled within five years.

2.        The town’s residents have been recycling twice as much material as they did in previous years during the past two years.

3.        Next month the amount of recycled material should further increase due to charges for pickup of other household garbage will double.

4.        Over 90 percent of respondents to a recent survey said that they would do more recycling in the future.

Recommendation:
1.        The available space in our landfill should last for considerably longer than predicted.

提纲:
1.        Ever since the year that the consultant made up the prediction, the town's residents have been recycling twice as much material as they did in previous years.

There are no reliable records proving how many residents have been recycling; the numbers of people who recycle the material could be very small comparing with the fact that nobody was recycling in the previous years.

2.        The evidence that charges for pickup of other household garbage will double does not directly related to the increasing amount of recycled material of paper, plastic, and metal;

Besides, the number of some other materials which are not able to recycled can be increased;

3.        Over 90 percent of respondents to a recent survey said that they would do more recycling in the future, but the memo fails to prove if the survey is reliable and the respondents are the representative to do the survey.

Perhaps the respondents are just youngsters who are in the elementary schools.

And the number of respondents who take the survey is unknown, which there makes the survey unreliable to be believed.

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亲,你真的应该发到作文版的……

1.        Ever since the year that the consultant made up the prediction, the town's residents have been recycling twice as much material as they did in previous years.

你得知道文中的证据是为了支持什么的,然后来反驳这个推理过程。
There are no reliable records proving how many residents have been recycling; the numbers of people who recycle the material could be very small comparing with the fact that nobody was recycling in the previous years. 这个有可能,但是说明什么了呢- -

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Enolate 发表于 2012-12-15 18:44
亲,你真的应该发到作文版的……

1.        Ever since the year that the consultant made up the pred ...


你去看嘛,我早就发了,那边很offish。。很aplomb

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Enolate 发表于 2012-12-15 18:44
亲,你真的应该发到作文版的……

1.        Ever since the year that the consultant made up the pred ...

可是这是根据看了文章后推出来的。。我真的不知道该怎么想

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麻倉枼 发表于 2012-12-15 22:45
你去看嘛,我早就发了,那边很offish。。很aplomb

哎呀 他们的习作贴是要在那个作文互改小组里报名被分组了才会有人改的嘛。。

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我说我自己的看法,不看你的提纲了,标号和evidence的标号不对应我看着好头大,心伤中智商不够用……

"Two years ago, consultants predicted that West Egg's landfill, which is used for garbage disposal, would be completely filled within five years. During the past two years, however, [A]the town's residents have been recycling twice as much material as they did in previous years. [B]Next month the amount of recycled material—which includes paper, plastic, and metal—should further increase, since charges for pickup of other household garbage will double. [C]Furthermore, over 90 percent of the respondents to a recent survey said that they would do more recycling in the future. [conclusion]Because of our town's strong commitment to recycling, the available space in our landfill should last for considerably longer than predicted. "
这个conclusion的支持证据是居民的strong commitment,作者把几个现象归为strong commitment:[A][B][C]

flaws
A: 这个fact的缺陷不在于参与回收垃圾的人数(那个twice应该是指回收的垃圾总量),而是回收的垃圾量的绝对数值。尽管回收总量增长了一倍,但是我们并不知道垃圾的数量,如果垃圾增长的倍数远大于回收增长的倍数,那么显然垃圾池到达极限的日子不会推后甚至有可能提前
B: 这里也有数量上的缺陷,pickup的费用增长两倍并不能说明选择这个服务的人会少而回收垃圾的量会多。首先那个服务费如果从1个月1分涨到了2分,那么这个涨幅还是在大部分人承受的范围内的吧。其次回收垃圾的数量和服务费涨价没有直接关系啊,如果之前回收的垃圾已经是所有能回收的了,那么在服务费涨价之后居民总不能把原来不能回收的垃圾回收了- -
C: 你说得对,这个survey不可靠。即使这个survey代表了大多数居民的意愿,口号和行动总是两码事,如果这个survey是当面做的,那么人们也许为了树立自己的环保形象而说愿意回收垃圾,根本不能代表commitment

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Enolate 发表于 2012-12-16 00:23
我说我自己的看法,不看你的提纲了,标号和evidence的标号不对应我看着好头大,心伤中智商不够用……

"T ...

你思考得好详细呢。。当时思考的时候是用中文还是英文呢?像我写这货的时候中英混杂的。。而且看上去像是字面意思推反,并没有涉及到其他重要方面去。。我这下完了。。

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麻倉枼 发表于 2012-12-16 01:07
你思考得好详细呢。。当时思考的时候是用中文还是英文呢?像我写这货的时候中英混杂的。。而且看上去像是 ...

中文想的 哎哎哎,我得练习英文写作了
你不是才开始写A吗,说完了为时过早啊 好好加油啊
重要的是找到叙述中逻辑推理的漏洞,其实可以从逻辑题里找灵感,看看答案都是怎么challenge从哪些论证challenge题干的

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Enolate 发表于 2012-12-16 01:56
中文想的 哎哎哎,我得练习英文写作了
你不是才开始写A吗,说完了为时过早啊 好好加油啊
重要的是找到叙 ...

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麻倉枼 发表于 2012-12-16 05:26
我被阅读36套再次完爆中。。今天不爽继续二周目阅读36套。。结果只做了一套。。就没了一天时间

pat.. 熟能生巧哈
你这是起得这么早还是。。。。

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Enolate 发表于 2012-12-16 14:12
pat.. 熟能生巧哈
你这是起得这么早还是。。。。


昨天1点半睡,今天8点起床,可是不精神,理由是睡眠质量不好。。
这倒不是理由。。我已经写完新的一篇A了,你可以看一下么给点意见。。谢谢

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