Biomedical Science PhD畢業後大家都可以去哪裡工作

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H1BMatch2012 发表于 2013-10-10 02:17
Most MD do clinical practice. But some focused on research, too.
I do not that a PhD coule be cal ...

Please refer to floor 24.
Personally, I don't think PhD graduated from medical school can be called 医学博士 as well.
Problem is, this title works for China, and many brag themselves as one.

Doing an MD is always one of my options after PhD graduation.
Starting from pursuing clinical work, ended up stuck with a life as lab scientist. Sigh~
We will see. Hehe

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medec1993 发表于 2013-10-10 11:29
Please refer to floor 24.
Personally, I don't think PhD graduated from medical school can be call ...

From my understand, level 24 refered to MD educated from US medical schools. There are a No. of them and I heard of some showed up in the show he mentioned. But I do not watch it myself.

PhD is PhD
MD is MD
Most chinese people with a title of "MD, PhD" refers to their MD education in China, and PhD education from wherever.
One people only have a BS from like biology and a PhD from US medical school should not be called MD.
But people from China, if clinical medicine more than 5 years, is officially MD equivalent, and is well accepted by both the academy and clinical in US and CA. I guess you know that US MD only trained for 4 years with similar education and knowledge level as Chinese top 15 level medical school gradautes, who has 5 or more years of training.
Well, you can say one has not got enough education and should call himself MB or MBBS, it does not matter. If one got through the residency program, I would call him well trained MD, just my opinion. If not, I can accept that one with "MD" from china to do post-doc, too. As far as he can do the job as good as a PhD.

However, be aware that the US academy has no problem of us giving us a title of MD, why we borther of claiming we are not as good enough? Lots more Indians do call themself MD with no regrets at all.We are indeed as good as,if not better, than all of them.

I would say, just a title without salary bonus. Take it easy.

By the way, ther are a number of MD only professors, who started with clinical but ended with so much funding/or research interests that focused lab work. THey did nice job and earn as much or even more than physicians, too. This week I will have a appoint with one of them, I heard his research work is so busy and he give up clinical appointments and focused on research years ago. But he might be moving to the coast soon. Well, I should be able to learn a lot from him, about the whole career path. Looking forward to it.

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H1BMatch2012 发表于 2013-10-10 12:54
From my understand, level 24 refered to MD educated from US medical schools. There are a No. of  ...

Those who can do the MD are rich dudes. 囧. I mean those in the show.

Of course an MBBS can do as well as any MD, but an MBBS is definitely not an MD, to me, at least. MD is postgraduate medical education, MBBS is only undergraduate one, we should give enough credit to MDs because they have to do 4 more years of undergraduate study for the very least.
I heard an piece of old news that a quite famous professor (CHINESE) was fired because she used her MBBS as "MD" to do postdoc in her past. It was considered as academic dishonesty.
In my opinion, an MBBS is an MBBS. Calling yourself "MD" is not about good enough or not. You may do your job even better than MDs, but your degree is MBBS after all.

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medec1993 发表于 2013-10-10 23:14
Those who can do the MD are rich dudes. 囧. I mean those in the show.

Of course an MBBS can do  ...

The thing matters to me is the what people are trained.
The reason why MBBS is MD, just because the curriculium is EXACTLY the same.
So, it is not MBBS bachelorate, but is training fresh graduate directly to the exactly the same level to MD in US.
Or in short, why the medical students suffer so much with the tight curriculum in China?  It is partially beacuse we are doing the MD training directly without enough basic tainging as a undergradaute. But this does not mean our medical training is not at a high level. Or you can try to say the MD at US is not real doctor. At some level, PhD is considered a terminal and the highest level degree but sometimes MD not.

Also, post gradaute medical education training is post MD graduation but not post bachelor graduation. Most times it is residency training, sometimes post-docs. MD is definately not graduate medical education. Ask a US MD about what Graduate Medical Education is.

Anyway, there are hundreds of Chinese and Indian "MD", or I should say tons of them. Lots of them are world level scientists. I personally know some of them, and some of them are chairs of US medical school clinical departments, and yes their title is MD PhD. So, I will go with how the academy and the whole medical world agree with, instead of judging them by myself who is not qualified to do so.

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H1BMatch2012 发表于 2013-2-15 00:55
选项不太对啊，
现实大多数人走的是
1.毕业做Post-Dog，然后千老到干不动为止都申不上AP，退化成Technici ...

受教了。。。。

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Postdoc salary level is too low at US..

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H1BMatch2012 发表于 2013-2-15 21:52
AP就是Assistant Professor，我觉得应该翻译成助理教授，打字匆忙可能产生了歧义，Sorry
个人认为国内 ...

R15是啥意思，小白一个，抱歉

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H1BMatch2012 发表于 2013-2-16 10:32
实际这些新生不需要知道得太仔细，这是长远的问题，总之都是Grant的编号，RO1是大多数实验室真正的Grant的 ...

您这头像有点儿猥琐，开个玩笑

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这个贴真是又欢乐又心酸；。。。无奈阿

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picachu518 发表于 2013-2-16 21:18
就算给offer也不想去

您好，看了您的帖子，向您学习。想请教前辈几个问题啊。先把我的背景拉出来吧
景介绍：
男，
undergraduate study
本科：某三线医学院
专业：Clinical  Medicine
GPA:88.6/100，换算后在3.1到3.9之间
graduate study in process
研二， 国内top前3的学校
专业：Pathology
Toefl：reading25 listening27 writing 27 speaking23 total102
GRE：Verbal154 Quantitative161 writing4.0
有学术奖励和奖学金若干
目前手头上有三个课题，一大两小，方向都是肿瘤方向，一篇临床研究，两篇基础研究，文章预期6月份投稿，预期发表SCI IF=2-3 和 IF=1-2和IF=4-5三篇（有些意淫，不靠谱），但均为一作
小弟的情况申请美国和加拿大的medical school或者大学的肿瘤方向的项目，或者pathology，包括一些大学的graduate 项目或者medical center或者cancer center的，弱弱的问一下这个情况能申请什么样的学校和专业啊？
更重要的是就业问题，因为本科是临床医学，如果搞生物工作不好而且也并非科班出身，但是考虑到现实的话您有什么建议吗？我想实验不太紧张，文章投出去之后（大约今年7月，同时开始申请）开始准备考U，您觉得可行吗？工作方向呢？
关于推荐人，除了现在研究生的之外，本科的教授是否有用呢？因为一方面考虑本科很水啊，教授不知道有没有意义，第二，觉得是不是有本科有研究生的教授会不会更有说服力呢？
谢谢您

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H1BMatch2012 发表于 2013-2-15 00:58
如今返聘回国要求太高了，名校基本都要美国教职经验，除个别以外，很多是Tenure不上的在美国也找不到第二教 ...

前辈您好，看过您很多的帖子，向您学习。想请教前辈几个问题啊。先把我的背景拉出来吧

男，
undergraduate study
本科：某三线医学院
专业：Clinical  Medicine
GPA:88.6/100，换算后在3.1到3.9之间
graduate study in process
研二， 国内top前3的学校
专业：Pathology
Toefl：reading25 listening27 writing 27 speaking23 total102
GRE：Verbal154 Quantitative161 writing4.0
有学术奖励和奖学金若干
目前手头上有三个课题，一大两小，方向都是肿瘤方向，一篇临床研究，两篇基础研究，文章预期6月份投稿，预期发表SCI IF=2-3 和 IF=1-2和IF=4-5三篇（有些意淫，不靠谱），但均为一作
小弟的情况申请美国和加拿大的medical school或者大学的肿瘤方向的项目，或者pathology，包括一些大学的graduate 项目或者medical center或者cancer center的，弱弱的问一下这个情况能申请什么样的学校和专业啊？
更重要的是就业问题，因为本科是临床医学，如果搞生物工作不好而且也并非科班出身，但是考虑到现实的话您有什么建议吗？我想实验不太紧张，文章投出去之后（大约今年7月，同时开始申请）开始准备考U，您觉得可行吗？工作方向呢？
关于推荐人，除了现在研究生的之外，本科的教授是否有用呢？因为一方面考虑本科很水啊，教授不知道有没有意义，第二，觉得是不是有本科有研究生的教授会不会更有说服力呢？
最后真心的谢谢您一直在坛子里为我们这些菜鸟解惑

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studying bio-. chem- etc. they are non-brainer. they cannot do math, and anything, except killing mouse, and washing tube. no offense. the job outlook for them is very bright, e.g. chinatown, panda express, etc.