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发表于 2010-1-1 15:13:01 |显示全部楼层
工欲善其事。必先利其器。。英语是器。。
说得好~~~

原来不止是我一个人在纠结这个问题啊,看来大家也都矛盾于此。我的专业压力不止是这两天,因为我已经研二了,老板就在屁股后面追进度,而且我还没告诉他我在考G……这个压力还得持续很久,唉。不过我想还是要选个时间段请个假,哈哈。

不过没关系的,我们得相信自己,关键心态要摆正。我们都要加油~~

PS:真羡慕你们,三年前要是我也有这觉悟就好了。
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我来啦!
新年快乐!
加油哈~~
fighting!!!
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我们是休眠中的火山,是冬眠的眼镜蛇,或者说,是一颗定时炸弹,等待自己的最好时机。也许这个最好的时机还没有到来,所以只好继续等待着。在此之前,万万不可把自己看轻了。
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发表于 2010-1-1 22:54:44 |显示全部楼层
呵呵,新年快乐!
我是3月25日在广州考,赶个三月的尾巴,有点晚了。
笔考大家时间一样,如果在广州没准和你一个考场啊!
一起加油啊!
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海王泪 + 1 嘿嘿··考完顺便吃个饭~~HOHO··

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发表于 2010-1-2 00:15:39 |显示全部楼层
Yeah。。看到新头像了。。原来要退出一下才行。。。话说Kon Kon也有好些不错的头像··

换成蓝染版的KON。。。呵呵~~学术型小KON出现了。。
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元旦哦··今天真是哈皮。。。
图书馆没开。。破天荒去挤教学楼了。。。
整了一天金融的资料,看来要多一天才能完成任务了。。呵呵

Comment补了“美丽”那篇。。蛮有感触的。。数学的美。。科学的美。。

所谓追求真理的行为~突然间觉得是话语权的影响所造成的。。种群的繁衍 嗯··
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https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1046873-1-1.html

My Sum-Up
1. What is and what makes the beauty of Theory?
2. We do understand a great deal about how nature behaves though we are a long way from understanding everything.
3. The universe is ruled everywhere by a coherent set of rules.
4. Mathematics is beautiful.
5. The limitations of language happen when we describe beauty.
6. We need training in order to perceive beauty more than the most obvious kinds.
7. Examples for beauty and training like paying attention can help perceive beauty.
8. Enjoying seeking truth as beauty brings with it a clear evolutionary advantage
9. A universe so prodigal of beauty may actually need us to notice and respond in order to close the circuit of Creation.
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Useful Expressions
You can't pursue the laws of nature very long without bumping into beauty.
Bump into=come across=encounter
This friend is a physicist, who has spent a long career deciphering what must be happening in the interior of stars.
Deciphering=exploring
How unlikely, that a short-lived biped on a two-bit planet should be able to gauge the speed of light, lay bare the structure of an atom, or calculate the gravitational tug of a black hole.
Lay bare=unveil=reveal=disclose
Generation after generation, we puzzle out formulas, test them, and find, to an astonishing degree, that nature agrees.
Generation after generation
Puzzle out
To an astonishing degree
We're a long way from understanding everything
A long way from=far from
I'm never more aware of the limitations of language than when I try to describe beauty.
Be never more aware of…than when…= only realize… when
Just so, I believe, the experience of beauty is an echo of the order and power that permeate the universe.
The experience of … is an echo of … that…
Permeate=flow through=spreadthrough

Materials
Ideas
What makes a theory beautiful
"They're so beautiful," he says, "you can see immediately they have to be true, or at least on the way toward truth." I ask him what makes a theory beautiful, and he replies, "Simplicity, symmetry, elegance, and power."
Limitations of Language
I'm never more aware of the limitations of language than when I try to describe beauty. Language can create its own loveliness, of course, but it cannot deliver to us the radiance we apprehend in the world, any more than a photograph can capture the stunning swiftness of a hawk or the withering power of a supernova.

Why We Seeking Truth- The Behavior is Evolutionary Advantage


This predilection brings with it a clear evolutionary advantage, for the ability to recognize patterns helped our ancestors to select mates, find food, avoid predators. (Three Main Behavior of Animals: Propagate, food, avoid danger)
Examples
The Analogy of Seeking Truth
By discerning patterns in the universe, Newton believed, he was tracing the hand of God. (The universe is ruled everywhere by a coherent set of rules, though they cannot say, as scientists, how these particular rules came to govern things.)
I spent my teenage years scrambling up the mountain of mathematics. Midway up the slope, however, I staggered to a halt, gasping in the rarefied air, well before I reached the heights where the equations of Einstein and Dirac would have made sense.
Scramble up=climb up
Examples for Human Power to Modifying Nature due to theory
An architect draws designs on flimsy paper, and her buildings stand up through earthquakes.
We launch a satellite into orbit and use it to bounce messages from continent to continent.
Examples for different extrinsic and intrinsic beauty(Why we need training)
Anyone with eyes can take delight in a face or a flower. You need training, however, to perceive the beauty in mathematics or physics or chess, in the architecture of a tree, the design of a bird's wing, or the shiver of breath through a flute.
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My Comment
This stunning essay shows us the beauty in science and why we have predilection in seeking patterns.

Being good at inducing patterns, rather than only conditioned reflex, human race have got better chance of living than do other species in our world. We are proud of our intelligence, because we benefit a lot from this evolutional advantage. Gradually, human fall in love with knowledge, and we feel ourselves as born from truth.

Beyond folk, there is a group of people who extremely indulge the emotion for logos. Scientists, from economists to physicist, and from linguists to anthropologists, all believe in laws of universe behind the superficial chaos. In Newton’s words, we are tracing the hand of God. If one day human could touch the amazing grace, the final truth, what else do we need? Nothing. Absolutely nothing because we become the Creator. But that’s a long journey, and it seems like a dream impossible.

Still, we are on the way toward truth, and many scientists suffer from setbacks again and again. But what we obtain are much more than pain. Along this alluring journey, knowledge is accumulating and in particular time we find we make significant progress. As what the author says in the article, “Generation after generation, we puzzle out formulas, test them, and find, to an astonishing degree, that nature agrees.”

Besides what author says, I would like to give an additional reason for beauty of truth. That is, knowledge is seamless. Knowledge can spread. Given enough time, all human will benefit from the achievement of only a small group of scientists. Once you accept it, it creates value. Moreover, knowledge depends little on objective material; in other words, it is free and inexhaustible. Except for our universe, what else can we find as limitless as knowledge?

My emotional essay was written in limited time without reasoning line….Sorry…

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[REBORN FROM THE ASHES][comment][01.01]
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晚上只做了今天的Comment,昨天(元旦)没办法做,又落下了一篇··杯具。。。
现在欠债两篇。。。晕。。
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GPA不能不要啊。。。我这学期学习已经很杯具了。。
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[REBORN FROM THE ASHES][comment][01.02]
https://bbs.gter.net/viewthread.php?tid=1047481
My Sum-Up
Floating in the Digital Experience
1.Our world of moving-image entertainment has changed significantly in the technology of making images more and more algorithmically than photographically.
2.And yet moving-image entertainment has changed little in the projector and content.
3.But today movies with new technology (3-D) results in fixed attention that has become rare at the past movies
4.People are greatly captivated not only by new-tech beauty but also the communal experience of pleasure with other people.
5.“Avatar” serves as a nice jumping-off point to revisit how movies and our experience of them have changed. Unless a maker calls attention to the technologies uses, reviewers won’t mention it.
6.Film is profoundly changing and reviewers haven’t noticed or don’t care..
7.People in predigital era have rarely experienced the past threadbare image world in cinema.
8.The movies and our experience of them has changed so radically in recent years and cinema has been decaying.
9.The shift of movies medium: The end of cinema may be due to the development of television.
10.The new types of image consumption and digital technologies have complicated our understanding of cinema.
11.And yet we still watch movies though people enjoy them in different ways
12.Movies need the spectacular 3-D images instead of only camera for more success in locking audience into story.
13.The 3-D images close the space between us and the screen. It also shows us a bright future.
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And yet how little our world of moving-image entertainment has changed!
And yet=however=but
I saw James Cameron’s “Avatar” with an audience that watched the screen with the kind of fixed attention that has become rare at the movies.
But they also seemed captivated.
Yet, unless a director or distributor calls attention to the technologies used — as do techno-fetishists like Michael Mann and David Fincher.
Do something with fixed attention=be captivated by something=be called attention to
Do away with all fetishes and superstitions.
Fetish of money/a Fetish of luxury goods
Fetish=obsession=addiction=infatuation=mania
It is because the movies and our experience of them has changed so radically in recent years
(Something change) radically=significantly=drastic
That’s particularly true after a decade when watching movies became an increasingly solitary affair, something between you and your laptop.
Solitary affair=Individual business
Avatar” serves as a nice jumping-off point to revisit how movies and our experience of them have changed.
A jumping-off point=start <->end=termination
The movie is successful and you fall under its sway, lock you into the story.
Fall under someone’s sway=be under control of someone
I love the luxurious look and warmth of film, and I fervently hope it never disappears.
Fervently hope=be eager to hope=strongly hope
So did the movies, which, despite Hollywood’s initial anxiety, became a crucial television staple.
Crucial=vital=critical=central<->peripheral
Staple=chief=main=principal

Unfamiliar Words
Cryptic, proprietor, ferociously, rigged, Avatar, techno-fetishists, Bluntly, fervently, fervently, threadbare, exotic, cinephilia, perched

Materials
Ideas
The Mechanism of Social/Community Event
People may not only enjoy the new tech of movie individually but also other experience. It is the social experience of the movie — as an event that needs to be enjoyed with other people for maximum impact which is more interesting.
Something Develop in unnoticeable Progress
Yet, because the visible evidence of this changeover has become literally hard to see, and because the implications are difficult to grasp, it is also understandable why the shift to digital has not attracted more intense analysis outside film and media studies.
Literally=actually=indeed
It is also understandable why=It is easy to understand why
The visible evidence of …is literally hard to see
The implications of … is difficult to grasp.
Parenthesis - Signal about Details to a Whole Picture
And the traditional theatrical experience that shaped how viewers looked at film and, by extension, the world, has been mutating for some time.
Mutate=transform=change->changeover

Examples
More and more Active Selection—From TV to Internet
It’s a movie we can access at home by pressing a few buttons on the remote or with a few clicks of the mouse.
Description about the Audience for an excellent Speech/Film/Show
When it was over, people broke into enthusiastic applause and, unusually, many stayed to watch the credits, as if to linger in the movie.
The Development of Images(camera, movies, photo,etc)
“All that was chemical and photographic is disappearing into the electronic and digital.”
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Reference
Vitascope--“Edison’s Latest Triumph.”
Vitascope is an early film projector first demonstrated in 1895 by Charles Francis Jenkins and Thomas Armat. The pair publicly demonstrated an image projection device at the Cotton States Exposition in Atlanta, Georgia which they called the Phantoscope. This prototype of modern film projectors cast images onto a wall or screen for a moderately large audience. The inventors, heady with the scent of success, became at odds with one another and began fighting over credit for the invention.
Armat, armed with legal authority, independently sold the Phantoscope to The Kinetoscope Company. The company realized that their Kinetoscope would soon be a thing of the past with the rapidly advancing proliferation of early cinematic engineering. They were very interested in this newest magic lantern and approached Thomas Edison to finance the manufacture of the instrument.
Edison agreed to the deal on one condition: in classic Edison style, he would henceforth be credited with the invention of the machine that he renamed the "Vitascope". [1]
Edison's involvement soon extended to film production for the projector in the new Edison movie studio, Edison's Black Maria.

Michael Mann and David Fincher, who used bleeding-edge digital cameras to make “Collateral” (2004) and “Zodiac” (2007)
Bleeding edge is a term that refers to technology that is so new (and thus, presumably, not perfected) that the user is required to risk reductions in stability and productivity in order to use it[1]. It also refers to the tendency of the latest technology to be extremely expensive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_(film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_(film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)
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My Comment
Floating in the Digital Experience, from the New York Times, talks about the current digital technology used and thus the transformation in movies. It build a scene that how our world of moving-image entertainment gradually and profoundly mutate without our notice.

This is good details (movies) we can use to show the benefits of technology (digital life). Lower cost, visual glory, fantastic experience, and convenience for spread make available our better experience of image entertainment than before.

Luckily, not only I got ideas about the development of technology but also realize the power of art. The article enlightens my experience about stories and I realize one of the crucial functions of art.
That is, effectively access to kinds of social belief and value.


As far as I am concerned, the experience of art is an echo of shared ideas, beliefs and values that permeate in our mind. For evidence, we can see “It is the social experience of the movie — as an event that needs to be enjoyed with other people for maximum impact — which is more interesting.” By accepting particular philosophy, we could develop self-identity. Allow me to cite a cliche here, human is social animal.

I also realize that how art effectively help the inherence of belief and value generation after generation. Only words may not works; images with sound can create impressive scene for people in mind and urge them to share with others. In order to save spirit heritage, in the past people use rituals with singing and dancing, or tell vivid stories and simultaneously draw some pictures in cavern or on bark; nowadays, we have director and distributer who do excellent works - flowing, vivid images with grace of voice and music – for locking audience into stories.

Moreover, I find relationship in technology and arts, that people create some techniques for more effectively transferring ideas through art. Take “Avatar” as illustration, “…the 3-D, by contrast, blurs that edge, closing the space between you and the screen even more.” It inevitably creates unbelievable experience by personally into the scene. And again, the echo of particular ideas, beliefs and values permeate in our mind, to an astonishing degree, that we are eager to share with others.
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1.02
复习专业课,居然在文化方面找到了些破题的路子~~
发现了研究英雄的那题ISSUE似乎来自于霍夫斯塔德的文化维度理论,有意思~
也回想起有人曾提到Unjust Law是来自于马丁路德金在监狱中的那封信~有意思有意思
当然除此之外,霍那个实用的文化模型还能用于破其他题目。
改天补上~~今天已经打了个小草稿了~挑了很多道文化、社会及部分历史题放在一起。

晚上就做了今天的Comment,昨天没办法,又落下了一篇··杯具。。。

每科只有不到两天复习时间··两天还要抽时间给两次Comment
下周还要上课。。。杯具

何年才熬到头可以专心准备AW?
GPA总不能不要啊。。。我这学期的学习已经很杯具了。。

只能暗暗给自己加油了~~Cheer up~
P.S.谢谢Q童鞋的鼓励,我们一起加油!!我就不信熬不过去!!!
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I believe this article was wrote by or translated by a Chinese. Feeling flowing in this essay is different from those we read in Economists or NY Times before. Generally speaking, the idea is good. But I doubt some words used here, including the “Righteousness”  in the title and "Gentleman” in a sentence.

We can see the definition from author about “Righteousness “ and “Gain” here.
Righteousness calls for a devotion to the whole society while gain drives one to pursue material interests.
But in Merriam-Webster, Righteousness seems like the behavior in moral principal or mind for judging. It doesn’t contain the meaning of altruism. That is, a man who is in pursuit of righteousness, such as a judge or attorney in a lawcourt, need not sacrifice himself for some principal or attend volunteer movement without payment. I can fight for righteousness, but I need not be a Virtuous man.


“Virtuous man” may be properly used in this article, but “Gentleman” in the sentence below is irrelevant.
“There was once a time when almost everyone claimed to be a gentleman and every word uttered was about righteousness.”

We can see some key qualities referring to “gentleman” in Merriam-Webster: Noble (rank), good manner (behavior), decent job (position).
However, “Junzi” in today’s topic mainly emphasize property in mind, specifically moral character; while “Gentleman” only focuses on the social class and appearance as the explanation in Merriam-Webster. Those who argue “Gentleman” is similar to “Junzi” have to explain why we do not hang a label of Junzi on those who show good manner and noble birth but in evil. For instance, European aristocrat living in 17 to 18 century are in good manner, on table or at ball, but most of them holding character of capitalism and thus show little mercy to poor people. In books I read some of these noble even abuse or beat commons who unintentionally jog them with elbow. Undoubtedly we call these guys as gentleman, but impossibly we agree they are Junzi.

Finally, I want to say sorry that all I wrote here may be nothing but chop logic.
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熬夜了。。晕。
今天按小分队计划,背了2个LIST,过了10道ARGU(感觉不是过是在破)
然后全天复习专业课,
晚上回宿舍后赶Comment,今天硬是啥都没憋出。。
因为今天的文章也很憋。。。感觉就是不对劲。。不管是语感还是意思。。

中国的文字和思想太难用英语表达了。。
应为中文具有模糊性(“义”啊等等),英语恰恰追求意思准确,很难传神地表达意思

还记得那个中秋晚会C和谐CTV,那些古诗词的歌在被吟唱的同时,字幕底下的英文翻译着实让人恶心了一番,,

我不行了。。开始胡言乱语了··脑袋出毛病了。。不能再写,写多错多。。。
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转。。中国人和外国人翻译静夜思的趣事。。。说到底还是语言障碍导致的意思误解。。
文化问题,文化问题

http://laiba.tianya.cn/laiba/CommMsgs?cmm=150070&tid=2691955625630463514

李白《静夜思》翻译漫谈之一


现在再一次讨论李白《静夜思》(“床前明月光”)及其译文。


最近我在孙大雨先生晚年翻译的《英译唐诗选》(上海外语教育出版社20079月出版)里读到李白《静夜思》的译文,顺便还读到了先生生前对Witter Bynner的译文的评论。我对比了孙大雨先生与Witter Bynner
各自的译文,觉得有些体会和看法想说,不妥之处,请教中外翻译界的前辈和同行。

孙大雨先生(1905——1997)是著名的翻译家,早年翻译莎士比亚,晚年翻译屈原和唐诗。据该书扉页介绍:先生1926——1930年留学美国,回国后历任武汉大学、北京师范大学、北京大学、浙江大学、复旦大学、等英文文学教授。译著颇多。该书扉页还复印了先生晚年亲笔的一页手迹,它是先生对翻译的见解。我觉得,不仅意见正确,语言和文字也都很好(英汉对照,特别是英语写得好)。因此我在书店把它抄回家,现在记录如下:


“文学翻译、特别是诗歌的翻译,要求移植者对于原文和所译文字的造诣都异常高,要能深入理解和摄取原作的形相到奥蕴,又善于挥洒自如地表达出来,导旨而传神,务使他能在他那按着原作的再一次创作的成果里充分地体现原作的精神和风貌。孙大雨199510,1。”


Literay works, especially versions of poetry, require their translators to be highly faithful to the original, capable of understanding and refleting the complexion and hidden sense of the original, so as to fully express the spirit and manner of the original.---Sun Ta-yu at the age of 91. April 17th; 1996


另外,该书还印制了两页手稿,从密密麻麻的中文与英文中可以感到、看到、想到先生老年执笔翻译的精神、毅力、认真、辛苦…


我特意抄录先生的那两条手迹,是出自我对先生的敬重与对先生英语修养的佩服,因为这是91岁老人的亲笔手迹啊!因此,我对先生的某篇译文的评论与异议,完全不是否定先生的学问与成就,这是我首先应该郑重声明的。


现在我们对比孙老与Witter Bynner两人的译文:

静夜思

李白

床前明月光,

疑是地上霜。

举头望明月,

低头思故乡。


一、孙大雨先生译文

Thoughts in a Still Night


The luminous moonshine before my bed,

Is thought to be the frost fallen on the ground.

I lift my head to gaze at the cliff moon,

And then bow down to muse on my distant home.

            Tr. May, 1980


二.
Witter Bynner
威特·宾纳的译文

In the Quiet Night


So bright a gleam on the foot of my bed---

Could there have been a frost already?

Lifting myself to look, I found that it was moonlight,

Sinking back again, I thought suddenly of home.


针对有人赞赏威特·宾纳的译文,孙大雨先生19828月专门写文章表示反对。文章开头写道:“近来有机会在一份时下的刊物里谈到两首驰名中外的唐诗的英译文,译者是素来为人称道的翟理斯(Herbet A. giles)和宾纳(Witter Bynner);他们的作品有人推荐选作英文教材读物。我觉得他们两人对我国古诗的理解还得评议,再则,他们以格律韵文的形式英译中国诗的能力也存在问题。”这篇文章作为附录刊载于上海外语教育出版社2007
9月出版的《英译唐诗选》。标题是《关于以格律韵文英译中国古诗的几点意见》,里边具体而全面地否定宾纳(Witter Bynner)的那篇译文,认为“在唐朝,我们的祖先白天就在草荐上席地而坐…李白这首诗写于京都,这床绝不可能或铺在高于地面的土炕上;…故此,床前就是指的窗前地上,并不是宾纳所译的on the foot of my bed…英译时毋需改为疑问句。Already一词也添得不对,因为李白写诗时可能正是冬天,并非译者假定的秋。…原诗的“举头”给译成了Lifting myself,意思并不一样,原诗在善本中的“山月”(虽然在通俗本中已误改为“明月”)译文成了moonlight,比讹传的“明月”力得更远。最后一行(“低头思故乡”)译成了Sinking back again, I thought suddenly of home. Sinking back 是不对的;again也不对;suddenly就再一次不对。宾纳的译文说明他不很懂中国的文学语言。宾纳的译文是一对四音步诗行和一对六音步诗行。从英文韵文的格律看,这样处理也说明他在驾御其本国语言方面尚显得才疏力薄…”(见该书466页)


我这样原封不动地抄录牺牲的大段文章,就是怕讹传先生的原意。但我明显地感觉到先生意见的偏颇。先生和他全盘否定的Witter Bynner都已作古,我就不一一参加辩论了。我这里只替比先生资格更老的翻译家Witter Bynner辩护两点:一、他的译文是地道的英语,他不仅口头上主张、而且行动上实践“神似重于形似”的译诗原则,怎么可以逐字或逐词地评定译文的对错?二、不能以偏概全,即使此译文一无是处,也不能拿它评论或贬低(或否定)此人的学问与成就。对待任何人都应这样。我一向主张这样对待自己的先辈:“我爱老师,更爱真理;我爱真理,也爱老师”;学术上也要、甚至更需要遵循这样的原则:“既要弄清是非,又要团结同志”。这里我不由得又要引用学贯中西、非常精通汉英两种语言的林语堂先生在《论译诗》里的那一段话:


“在翻译中文作者当中,成功的英人韦烈Arthur Waley。其原因很简单,就是他的英文非常好…他译唐诗,乐府古诗十九首及诗经等不用韵,反而自由,而能信达雅兼到…又
Witter Bynner将道德经译成美国口语,实在好,因为他是个诗人。”


一般说来,中国人译唐诗,主要是英语表达问题,可以说,处处都会遇到语言问题;外国专家译唐诗,主要是理解原文问题,他们不容易理解准确原诗的内容、诗的意境,特别是言外之意。由于两种语言的差异,两种民族文化的不同,即使他们理解了原文,也不容易用母语表达。比如李白这首《静夜思》后两句“举头望明月,低头思故乡。”“见明月而思故乡”这种感情已经成了中国人的文化传统,在我们的诗词戏曲里经常出现,习以为常,外国人就会感到陌生,没有切身的感受。就以孙老与他评论的Witter Bynner两篇英语译文为例,我们不妨比较一下,就立刻可以看到各自的优缺点。


我不止一次读到我国资深的翻译家批评外国翻译家的这方面缺点。但他们往往不重视自己英语方面的严重不足。比如孙老写道:“在唐朝,我们的祖先白天就在草荐上席地而坐…李白这首诗写于京都,这床绝不可能或铺在高于地面的土炕上;……故此,床前就是指的窗前地上,并不是宾纳所译的on the foot of my bed;我本人原来也怀疑Witter Bynner
这里的foot用法有问题:“床”怎么只有一只“脚”呢?后来查词典才知道,单数形式的foot这里不是表示“床”的“脚”,而是表示““炕”的“底部”。因此不用复数而用单数。因此Witter Bynner威特·宾纳把“床前明月光”译成So bright a gleam on the foot of my bed!我们对the foot of my bed 感到惊讶,但对the foot of the wall(墙脚下)、the foot of the hill(山脚下)可不会感觉陌生啊!

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Comparison
Eternity is the whole, simultaneous, perfect possession of limitless life, which we can better understand perhaps by comparing it to temporal things.
Comparison - Examples for Man has free will
Just as you can see at the same time a man walking on the ground and the sun rising in the sky, and, although the two sights coincide, you understand immediately that the man’s walking is willed and the sun’s rising is necessitated.
It is like the examples I proposed to you a moment ago of the rising sun and the walking man. While these things are happening, they cannot not be happening, but of the two, only one was bound to happen while the other was not.
Be bound to=must
the brief and fleeting instant
which embraces all the vistas of the future and the past
It is not pre-vision (praevidentia) but providence (providentia), because, from that high vantage point, he sees at once all things that were and are and are to come.
Vantage point
it turns out that they are tantamount to being necessary
be tantamount to=be equal to
whichever way you turn, so that you cannot avoid or evade divine foreknowledge, just as you cannot escape being seen by an eye that is focused on you,
avoid=evade=escape
God has prescience and is a spectator from on high, and as he looks down in his eternal present, heassigns rewards to the good and punishments to the wicked.

My Comment
This article is really difficult for me, because it seems like a maze and thus I lost in the logic of the author.
“God has prescience and is a spectator from on high, and as he looks down in his eternal present, he assigns rewards to the good and punishments to the wicked.”
If God cannot change anything but acting like a silent witness, why should we believe that it has the ability to assign rewards or punishments? I suddenly want to go for a walk, then I walk, and necessarily I walk. God can watch that, but he cannot stop my walking because I choose to walk!

What I think is that, God is everything. God is object. God is nature.
If we treat God as a witness, objectively we are wrong. But subjectively we are right.
God is only a concept in our mind. So arguing about that is meaningless. God is just a word we believe to exist. How can we treat it as a person or think it acts like a person?

In fact, we should place emphasis on free will of human. God is only a production of human mind. Men have free will. But God hasn’t. When we see the rising sun and the walking man, we know exactly the former is necessitated but the latter is willed. God is such a concept we created for watching our behavior in free will. But what can God do?

If God is omniscience, it knows our past, present and future as eternal and all this is destiny, the idea about men have free will is illusion because everything should be happened and we haven’t choices.
But if we have free will, until we make choices, everything is unpredictable, thus God do not know what would happened in the future and God is not omniscience.
Since two assumptions lead to an paradox. I ‘d like to believe that “God is omniscience” is just a concept created by our free will. Because of our free will, God exists.

I am sorry. I truly do not understand this essay. Time is up. I have fever today and I’d got to sleep.




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Comment 很随便做了,不过文章说实话绕来绕去没看明白.. 只知道在说永恒,上帝只是默默地看..
问题就来了, 我不管作者到底是讨论什么..
我只知道, 默默地看着这个动作本来就有问题, 仅仅是我们的想法赋予的...
但是,对于万事万物没有影响的东西,我不承认这种物质的存在...

我只承认另外一个上帝,那就是自然中总结出来的规律,可以用来解释事物的.
那是我们对世界的认识..而不是讨论心里面一个不能解释世界(不涉及变化)的概念
作者说了那么多,不就是等于在说上帝不存在吗?

如果上帝全知全能,那么人的一刻是永恒的,无论过去未来早已是命运,是决定论下的悲剧,是宿命,人的自由意志根本就是假象;
但如果人的自由意志是确实存在,那么人在选择之前,一切都是不可知的,当让上帝也不可能知道,那么上帝就不是全知全能的.

那我情愿相信,“上帝全知全能”这个命题根本就是人类自由意志产生的概念,然后有人拼命相信他
就是说,因为人相信,上帝才存在。
上帝只是一个概念。

我承认我在胡说八道..因为i我发烧了...熬夜熬了两周...生物钟被严重地打乱了..
事情控制不了地做不完..要想做完必须熬夜...然后第二天效率更低,也熬出了病..

必须得调整...我不可以让我的gpa完蛋...这点破事都控制不来...我以后怎么生存?
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早上上课、下午晚上复习专业课。。。
晕··人力资源终于过完了一遍···杯具。。。
明天开背。。。。

对不起咱们班的童鞋了··国际金融的复习资料到现在只整理了一半。。
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