2012Fall东亚研究系申请、面试、录取交流贴

AriadneUID: 3240964

临睡前回一帖吧。
这里并非是一言堂或是小团体的自留地，既然以交流为名，便是大家互通消息的地方，是一个开放的“友爱的共同体”。
并非不欢迎新来者的交流，然而以攻击学者本人而非对某位学者学理之批评为始的回复，我想这也并不是什么认真交流的态度，也并不值得什么尊敬与友爱。更何况接下来的每一条，无不透露着因年长几岁多经历了些便对后来者生出的傲慢与偏见。

每个人都有过在论坛上求助的经历，几年之后又何必忘记曾经困惑的自己呢。

AriadneUID: 3240964

～

sandarbanUID: 3047252

well one more remark then.

to Sherry, i guess you won't bother to mention something at length if you don't rank it at least near the top.

to those other than Sherry, Sherry really set up an example for you: don't just admire those professors, challenge them and be confident.

hanmikeUID: 138484

挑战权威是很好的，但很多老师未必喜欢，即使是在美国。学术自由是有限度的。潜规则是不少的。你的话有醒人的目的，但傲慢是不对的。

1519# sandarban

LvXiaoweiUID: 2811235

Sandarban这种装的人理他作甚，理他你就败了。

@天城night 我只是道听途说，一个将走未走的Fabio Lana（做五四思想史的）告诉我的。所以具体情况不清楚。文科么，个人觉得，修行靠个人，有一个不错的图书馆可以自己做很多事情，老师管不管似乎都不是有太大的影响
我的兴趣主要在政治经济方面，contemporary China，UA只是之前和Fabio有一些联系，所以申了一下，其实不是很match的。
因为本贴的空气一直是文学方向，所以我只潜水膜拜，不怎么发言，道行差的还太远了。。。

SherryShouiUID: 2120245

1519# sandarban
Not necessarily. As I told you, do not assume. The schools that I talked about earlier are the ones that I know well - at varying degrees though – as I've identified POIs here and there and done my research. I do know a lot about Columbia, and I wanted to share the information with others upon request. I don't know much about Berkeley or UCLA, so I kept my mouth shut without misguiding other applicants. The purpose was information sharing, not "ranking." If you saw it as "ranking," that's your problem not mine.

One could always simultaneously respect and critique a professor. Yet respect is the premise of communication and understanding. If you don't know all the rules, you can't break them. If you don't read, you cannot write for or against; you simply cannot write, cuz all writing is re-writing. If you don't listen, digest, learn and think with the respect for the speaker, how can you re-think and re-work their thoughts? We are critical thinkers, yet it doesn't mean that we have to be rude to others. Seriously, this is not your place to lecture us on overcoming "mushy-gushy affection for professors." Did you ever hear us saying "EVERYTHING THIS PROF SAYS IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT"? Do not assume.

Do. not. assume.

sandarbanUID: 3047252

certainly you're not ranking intentionally, but you did it unconsciously. i don't assume you know that.

and about assuming, you asked a good epistemological question. but do we have to tumble on that? the story of communication and interaction is a story about assuming, among other things of course.

and i see you are somewhere in that big theory of inter-textuality, be prepared to take it all.

SherryShouiUID: 2120245

Funny enough. So you know my unconscious mind, my dear Freud. Oh did you notice that I summarized Harvard in a single sentence? Does it mean that I ranked it the lowest? Oops, so I clearly contradicted myself – and oh yeah, unconsciously.

I didn't ask an epistemological question. You made it an epistemological question yourself. I was only talking about attitude. Even if all communication is miscommunication, it is still clear that some ppl are humble, polite, striving hard to avoid assuming, while some are simply self-righteous and arrogant. The difference lies in attitude. If you insist on epistemology, let's talk about the split between the announced "I" and the announcing "I." The self-awareness to struggle away from social constructs is what makes one human. Certainly nobody can completely free oneself from social constructs, but some are trying, some aren't, and that marks a huge difference. I didn't see you put any effort in communicating with ppl. All you did was bossing and lecturing.

Thus ends the conversation. I'm not responding anymore.

daidaishouUID: 3202345

刚在columbia的status check上查到被EALAC录了 ：）
开心

AriadneUID: 3240964

1525# daidaishou


袋袋鼠恭喜你！

huimieUID: 2578470

1525# daidaishou
BIG CON!是phd么？你的poi是？^ ^
PS:我也查了，結果請見簽名檔...

huimieUID: 2578470

昨晚特別困，8點不到就睡了，也沒開電腦。
今早起來看見sherry和Ariadne的討論好歡樂。然後不斷添加自己的書單^ ^

1476# 天城night
男紙童鞋的：鲍照比较谢灵运的诗和颜延之的诗，谓谢诗如“初发芙蓉，自然可爱”，颜诗则是“铺锦列绣，亦雕缋满眼”讓我瞬間聯想到《茶經》中的“邢不如越”，google如下：
若邢瓷類銀、越瓷類玉、邢不如越一也；若邢瓷類雪、則越瓷類冰，邢不如越二也。邢瓷白而茶色丹，越瓷青而茶色綠，邢不如越三也。
——這種審美真的很難用理論解釋。

SherryShouiUID: 2120245

恭喜袋袋鼠！

另外Stanford EALAC PHD的结果也陆续在出了。我这边已经收到纸信了，签名日期是2月27。在中国的同学可能会晚上几天才能收到结果，着急知道的可以打电话或者写email去问。

daidaishouUID: 3202345

@Ariadne， SherryShoui：谢谢你们！这几天心情比较忐忑地等消息的时候多亏各位的学术对话，虽然我不是这个方向的可是也看得很欢乐很有感触
@huimie：我是小本所以申的都是ma，phd不敢申哈~想跟的教授是como还有faure

SherryShouiUID: 2120245

huimie申的是Columbia的phd么？phd被据还可以进入下一轮MA评选，不过结果比较晚，而且没钱。不过因为MA是按学分算学费，所以第二年修完学分写MA thesis时，学费就很少了。我估计其它学校MA应该也大多都是如此制度。纠结MA funding的可以把这点也列入考虑。