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No field of study can advance significantly unless outsiders bring their knowledge and experience to that field of study.

Outline:
1# 以实验室阶段为例,提出学科之间是相互联系的,学好一门学科需要其他学科的帮助,
2# 在实际生产过程中,其他学科的运用也起到重要作用
3# 专家的作用同样不可忽视


With the significant progress of socialization, technology and science become more and more complex which is hardly for a certain field can(把can改为to,注意到你在用句式it is adj. for sb. to do sth.所以不要少了后边的成分) handle. I strongly agree that the (去掉the,注意这是我们最爱犯的问题,滥用the)outsiders can bring in abundant of(似乎这里不用加of) knowledge and experience which can greatly advance other fields. However, the part that experts play in advancing their own field should not be overshadowed.(作者这里巧妙的强调了experts的地位,这首先给出了outsiders的对立面,方便了后文的叙述,同时也展现了作者的让步的思维)

In the first place, each field associates with other fields closely, hence, konwledge and experience from other fields can promote grasp(这里grasp不能做名词,要用它的动名词形式) of one field, especially in the laboratory-level. Take my major, which is material science and technology, as an example. During the process of studying property of one new material, there are couples of disciplines are compulsory, such as chemistry, physics, mathmatics and computer science, and so forth. Chemistry help identify the molecular structure of that material, then the experimental methods of physics can further interpret the machanical function related to its original molecular structure. After these two steps, ample data are collected which will be annlysed by computer which is functioned in a mathmatics statistics way and ultimately draw a conclusion whether this material is worthy of mass manufacture.(有一点小小的问题,这也是我在写作的过程中自己遇到的问题,就是题目在强调outsiders,应该是一个具体的人,那么我们再举学科之间的关系的时候,是否应该强调个人而不是学科呢?除了这个问题,这个例子举的可以说是perfect,因为它把作者自己的专业拿来作为了例子,同时作者的语言写的让其他的专业的人一样可以看懂,这就是水平了.至少不要使你举的本专业的例子让别人看不懂!)

Secondly, (千万注意对仗,你要在这里用了secondly,前面一定要有first或者firstly)it is of great fascination that knowledge and experience of other field will accelerate the formation of this mass manufacture. When the laboratory-level is finished, the investigation of market need must be launched immmediately which should be handled by professional people. At the same time, person who is expert at operating equipment and understanding the  producing process is needed. Finally, economics experts are needed to devise new ways of sales in order to attract people's attention, yet the property of that product should not be unduly introduced.(这里似乎可以再总结一下,把你前面的观点说的更详细和深刻,增加你的字数.)

From all above, we learned that we require knowledge and experience form other fields to help us accomplish one job, however, without the devoted study and research of experts, these knowledge and experience cannot orginically integrate into that field. The application of knowledge and experience of other fields should be evaluted by experts, whether these knowledge, experience or methods is avaluable in that field is uncertain. (似乎应该把avaliable改为useful吧?)Furthermore, only learned experts with broad experience of research and study can further improve the achievement of knowledge and experience or from other fields to arrive at the degree of effiectivity and fitness(这里使用fitness想表达什么含义?).


To sum up, because fields are all(用all是不是太绝对了?) closely related, it is benefitial to bring in knowledge and experience from other fields which will advance our own field and further bring us to a brandnew perspective. At the same time, the function of experts are intelligible which is a rational impetus in that field while the outsider is the (应该用a)catalyst.

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原帖由 huhu_zsu 于 2006-5-28 17:10 发表
我把argu47的错误理顺一下，为了便于理解，就先用中文了。大家也发表一下意见，算是对我们第一篇argument 的总结。
原文：
研究历史上气候变化的学者发现在六世纪中叶，地球突然变冷了很多。尽管那个时期很少有 ...

那两个错误就是以偏概全，这个是没有争议的
批驳错误要按照错误的主次来，先批最重要的，就是使文章的论证结构哗啦一下就崩溃的那种
每篇文章找到一个最主要的，然后再批两个次要的
我认为每篇批驳3，4个错误足以
每个错误要批驳到位，批驳彻底
这就是我的理解

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To frostmourn

第四小组，第一次作业,issue120

提纲：
position:虽然现在面临的问题不同，历史仍然有指导意义
1。现在世界上的问题日益复杂，从历史中找不到直接的解决方案；
2。但古今问题很多基本原则不变；
3。政治家和战略家可以从历史中吸取教训，防止再次犯错

The speaker asserts that history cannot help people to make important desions today and that it(是否可以省了) is the only thing history teaches us.I concede that in the modern world many thing has changed and we are facing many new problems that our predecessors even don't know,so it is not likely to solve these problems directly from historical experience,however,history still have some merits and meanings for today,and it teaches us more（这句感觉有点怪，more是什么？）.

I agree that we are facing more complex and intricate problems,compared to our precursors.As our knowledge grows,we find that the things around us are becoming more and more complicated,rather tahn more easy（than easier） as it was expected.This phenomenon can be explainedur ken（？？） is like a circle,and our knowledge its radius--the longer the radius is,the larger the circle is,and the more places the circle contacts with.（这个例子是要说明圈子越大，我们未知的领域越大。看看能否把他改得更加有效地为主题——历史解决不了  服务）We find that owing to the trend of globalization, mercantile activities among nations became more complex than any period in history,and handling intricate international relationship has become a paintaking thing of political leaders,and many new issues rised by science calls for solution.These problems are stark new and we regrettably find that history provide no direct key or immediate solution to thse problems.

However,we should't say that history is helpless to making decisions today--in fact,we can gain inspiration indirectly from history.Though things are seemingly new,the foundermental principles are always the same--international trades still conform to ecnomic principles and laws as before;the diplomatic basic tactics are largely the same as centuries ago;the scientific methods haven't changed significantly during decades.Thus we can see why students in colleges study knowledge of the past---those basic principles have not changed and still can direct our today's activities.（很精彩，中间像中文写作时用地排比句，有气势，我也喜欢这么写）

As to politicians and strategists,learning from historical experience can inspire themselves and thus help to make more sound decisions.History repeats itself,many events may happen repeatedly when the circumstances are similar,so one can compare the present situation with historical ones and predict its consequence or find solutions or absorb experience from historical events.If hitler had conscientiously studied the war between French and Russian intrigered by Napoleon,he may know better than to launch a total attck against Russia when winter comes,（好像是英语书里一篇文章地例子，呵呵，提醒我了。原来英语书还有提供例子地作用）and the history may utterly changed.（最好也像下面那个例子一样作个总结）In ancient China,the empiror of Qin dynasty demand that a huge palace called Apang be constructed within 3 years,the palace he designed was very luxious and would cost many rescorses.more than 100,000,000 people were levied to build the palace and consequently the agricultual productivity aggravated and people began to complain about Qin's tyrany,and soon Qin dynasty was overthrowed by the people.Politicians can learn from these historical events--though no huge palace like Apang will be built,they should notice that whenever launch a policy or plan,people's well-being must be taken into considerration.Hence,we can see that history help making important decisions.

In conclution,though due to the changes in every aspects today one can hardly find direct solutions from history,history still teaches us how to make sound decisions--we need analize the situation and find similar events in history and absorb precious expirience in a indirect way.


这篇文章实际是issue54,但我看54和120基本没什么区别，应该能通用吧
（ISSUE 54 - "History teaches us only one thing: knowing about the past cannot help people to make important decisions today."）

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大家继续交作业啊,现在还不齐呢,同时参照Peter2楼总结的作业情况继续改作文.

monkeycolaUID: 2206472

ISSUE4 - "No field of study can advance significantly unless outsiders bring their knowledge and experience to that field of study.
syllabus:
1不同学科之间的互相借鉴可能产生重大的科学突破，使科学发生革命性的变化
２综合各个领域的，而不是只用一个领域的知识去解决重大的问题

The speaker asserts that no field of study can advance significantly unless outsiders bring their knowledge and experience to that field of study."As far as I concerned,I strongly agree with that the progress of one field depend on the knowledge and experience of other field.The world around us presents various phenomena of natural science which are more or less relatively connected that can be understood only by various disciplines.

In the first place, expertise and experience of one field are conductive and illustrative to other fields.The interdisciplinary interchange benefit each other a lot which leads to new growing points and new frontiers in the field of science.Also the interchange of different fileds are most likely generate very important breakthroughs and make a revolutionary change to science.One example that properly illustrate this point about interdisciplines of different fields. In 1953 the astounding discovery of double helix DNA are the collaboration of physicist Francis Crick, ,biologist James Watson .Without appreciating knowledge from different fields,it is hard for them to solve the structure of DNA.In the 20th century,the result of different disciplines interaction created numerous amount of new disciplines ,such as biochemistry,physical chemistry , biophysics and so on.All these discipline advanced the progress of science greatly.

In the second place, we can solve the crucial problems by integrating the experience and expertise of different fields,rather than one singular field..In the development of society,it is essential to combine various knowledge of different field together to handle with the pressing problem such as the uncontrollable population,the devastation of ecosystem,the pollution of environment and so on.Even the development strategy and the designation of vital policies about politics,military and economy of one country need versatile and comprehensive knowledge.In another words, utilizing the systematic knowledge of all the fields.

Admittedly,the significant progress of one field is not only absorbing experience and expertises from other fields,but also concentrating on the study wholeheartedly and specific analysis which is the key to success.The insiders of one field shouldn’t assimilate the knowledge from other fields without discrimination.The right way is on the basis of acquainted with knowledge of different field to evaluate the useful and effective experiences.
  
In sum,the progress of one discipline relys on the experience and knowledge from othe disciplines,and the development of society requires the knowledge interplay of different fields.
周日才知道有作业，今天晚上有个英文的presentation,两个作业撞车了，这次写的不好，请拍
还有感谢Frostmourn上次的修改，我会逐渐改正和提高自己的写作水平

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To a certain extent, I agree with the speaker that study can achieve significantly advance with the knowledge and experience of outsiders. However, there are always exceptions. We can not deny the fact that some field of study advanced without the help of outsiders.

To begin with, look（looking） back to the history, it is obvious that either an unrelated article from a magazine or a lecture given by a famous person would bring about inspiration to researchers. The process of doing a research is imbued (你确定这个词用的合适？有没有点chinglish?)with difficulties. People often boggled down in a certain area and all their knowledge and experience seems helpless. But once they absorb some different ideas or methods from outsiders, their mind become clear suddenly and things begin to get ground.（When confused by this dilemma, referencing from outsiders will bring in fresh ideas and methods to the frustrated people, meanwhile, solutions begin to emerge.很可能我这句话写得很不好，但是我觉得原句真的需要修改）A very example illustrate this is....(好不容易找到了一个例子，却无法翻译过来，上网、查书都解决不了。我似乎遇到了作文的第一个瓶颈——例子。其实我的要求也不是很高啊，“欧立希（德国化学家）”该怎么拼写啊？) 欧立希(P.Ehrlich,1854-1915)
In the second place, some knowledge from outsiders do be needed in a research. The world around us presents 用present放在这里我觉得不太好a meshwork of physical and anthropogenic forces, which interact in ways that can be understood only in the context of a variety of subjects. This phenomenon becomes extremely important when we are doing a research in a wide field, such as anthropology and sociology. A case in point is from my own experience. I have joined a research group supported by U.S Lingnan Foundation which focuses on what blocks the development of local companies”. As a student major in engineering, we can find out the technological problems existenting in companies by our expertise and knowledge learned from classes. But when it comes to designing questionnaires and doing some interview with people working in the companies, our knowledge and experience seems to be inadequate. It is certain that without the help of the schoolmates majoring in sociology, we can not obtain the indispensable information we need for research.
（这段很不错）
However, unduly emphasize on the functions of outsiders will lead us rely on the outsiders when we meet certain problems but fail to figure them out by ourselves. We can not make sure that outsiders can share us with knowledge and experience whenever we meet troubles. Even if they do share with us去掉, whether it helps or not is uncertain. In fact, significant advance and development can be achieved in some field only through the thousand times fighting between researchers and difficulties. In order to prove an law, a mathematician has to use thousands of drafts and regardless of what being happened outside. In many situations, no one can help him but only his own will and insistence that lead him to the great success.（有点绝对化） In the purpose of designing wonderful software, the designer has to sit in front of the computer day after night, debug the program again and again, due to the complicated expertise, the possibility that a average outsider can help him make progress is very low.small  
To sum up, technology and science tend to be more complicated and interlaced in this new century than any time in the past. Thus, there will be a growing tendency that people researching in different areas share their knowledge and experience together. Outsiders will play more and more crucial roles in the process of research.   
文章是++-的三段式，结尾成了一边倒，总结最好同样按照三段式来写
写得不错

[ 本帖最后由 nostrum 于 2006-5-29 20:22 编辑 ]

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to geniego

提纲：
1．        作者仅仅因为没有闪光的记载就排除了陨石撞击的可能性，而关于闪光的历史的资料有可能遗失
2．        即便承认作者所说的是由火山爆发所引起的，那么仅凭隆隆的声音就能断定是火山爆发了么,既然已经有了声音的记载，没有理由没有状况的描述，如果说大家仅仅是听到的话，为什么不能不能说是陨星造成的呢？没有人在现场的呀
3．        我们知道温度下降是个全球性的问题，而全球71%的海洋，21%的陆地，火山所占的陆地面积更是微乎其微,作者怎么能断定全球变冷只有这两个原因？
This argument states that it is probably a volcanic eruption caused a significant decrease of temperature(应指明是地球的温度) in the-sixth century. To support the argument the arguer indicate（主谓一致） that either a huge volcanic eruption or a large meteorite colliding Earth could have created a large dust cloud throughout Earth's atmosphere that would have been capable of blocking enough sunlight to lower global temperatures significantly. Then the author eliminate（主谓一致） the possibility of meteorite collision, because there is no historical records indicate a flash（这个句子两个谓语，后面改为分词形式）, which a large meteorite collision would probably create（如果你用which来引导，那么它为什么成分呢？？）. What the author mentioned appears to support the argument, however, in fact is quite illogical（该句缺主语）. 如果你以陈述题目作为开头，可是只是涉及题目的一部分内容，且说的教烦琐。例外就是句子结构等语法问题较多。

It is common sense that  historical record could indicate what have（是have还是has？你自己查查，我不确定） happened, but no historical record could not indicate what have not happened（发生什么？不需要指明么）. What is more ,what have not been record（应为＋ed的动词把） is just a flash. And it is probably that I t（it指代什么？从句子上看不出来，虽然内容上大家知道） happened in some places where the flash is impossible to be recorded, such as some original places without a language or the Arctic without human beings. Just based on no historical record, the argument is obviously too weak to support the elimination of meteorite collision（不是排除碰撞，而是排除碰撞的发生）.

There is still some flaws in this passage. Even if it is true a meteorite have not happened, there are still flaws failing the arguer to conclude that the cooling is caused by volcanic eruption. If some records mentions a loud boom, why is there no evidence to state the scene of the volcanic eruption（你这句话我都可以反过来攻击你）. It means no one have seen it, if some , no record exists. And sounds lie, because too many things can create such a loud boom, for example, the possibility the author crossed out.

In this argument, a potential premise, though the author did not indicate, is exactly the basis of the standpoint. The premise is that only these two things lead to significant decrease of the temperature. Numbers of reasons are provided nowadays to explain why the weather pattern changes, there is still no definite conclusion. It is a problem of complex effects. However, the author failed to provide sufficient evidence which could eliminate all the other reasons

个人观点：1，语法功底的加强下
               2，论证的过程建议条理清晰，如：批判点＋展开＋理由 来组成论证结构段
              3，自己的句子缺乏逻辑性
说的不少，可能说的严重了些，勿介意

[ 本帖最后由 yuexuan 于 2006-5-29 22:16 编辑 ]

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终于把presentation搞定了，今天开始改作业！

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to yuexuan
Science research is the most important thing which has a far reaching impaction to （on） the progress and development of society. How does a field study（感觉有点别扭the study in a field） advance(加s) significantly? The answers are different from people to people. The speaker asserts that significant advances in knowledge require expertise（可数还不可数？） from various fields. But in my opinion, outsiders’ knowledge and experience do not necessary lead to significant advance in a research field although sometimes it does so.//有保留的反对，是吧！

First of all, outsiders’ knowledge and experience may bring about great progress to a specific research field sometimes. Nowadays, various fields are becoming more and more complex and elusive with the development of scientific technology. In order to make it further, we need more efforts（用短语好一些吧） and try our best to work hard, just for a little feedback or no any result about that in worse situation（which is even worse,会不会好一些）. But outsiders’ knowledge and experience can offer new ways and different thinking pattern(复数) which may make problem solving easier（make problem be solved more easier）. A little example can give some light to this point(是不是汉翻英). Meakle’ (A botanist from UK) studying on（on 可以去掉） plants provides（时态） a host of knowledge and experience for pathology and makes it advance significantly. At the time, combining lots of knowledge and experience from different fields is a imperative trend for tackling with much more multidiscipline
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However, outsiders’ knowledge and experience do not sure（surely） lead to huge advance in a research field. Nature change or quality change need accumulation of numerous small change(s). The development of science is the accumulation of previous hard-working for its progress which is a necessary step among studying approaches. For example, all of us studied basic knowledge when we were young, and chose interested (interesting) major in college. Then we would pay full attention（单，复） to the field and became so incredible diligence for the aim that we devote ourselves to the significant advance of science. Galileo’ life is just so and he has brought extraordinary advance in his field.//是不是详细解释一下这个例子，否则谁这道他怎样的专一。

Moreover, luck and inspiration can arouse the significant advance to some extend（extent）. There are multitude of discovers(discoveries) in science resulting from luck and inspiration. The discover// of Newton law attribute// to the sudden dropping of apple when he had a rest seating（seated） under a tree. Aristotle sets up the law about buoyant force from the inspiration when he was washing(洗澡用这个词？. And the founding of  periodic system of elements was just thanking for a dream. All discovers// are due to luck and inspiration. //这话有点绝对了！

All in all, from what has been discussed above, the title statement is arbitrary and we can draw the conclusion that outsiders’ knowledge and experience do not necessary lead to significant advance in a research field although sometimes which can bring huge advance。
小错误不少，最好先自己改一下(有的我自己也不知对不对,看着有点别扭，不好意思！)。我觉得Aristotle 那个可以算是物理和数学的合作呢。我是觉得反面不太好说。加油，加油！fighting!
不好意思,改错了一些地方,洗澡的确可以用wash 的．

[ 本帖最后由 edream 于 2006-6-2 19:24 编辑 ]

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改组长的ISSUE4  

并请大家回应我的第四个问题
谢谢大家!


TOPIC: ISSUE4 - "No field of study can advance significantly unless outsiders bring their knowledge

and experience to that field of study."
WORDS: 548
论点：科学研究不但要靠专门的知识，刻苦的钻研．更需要广阔的思路和眼界．所以，适当的和本领域之外的人士交流，可以启发研究者的思维，推进本领域的研究．（总体是正面的观点，看我的构思，如果反面不好写，那就干脆写完全的正面型观点）


We have witnessed drastic technology advancement in the passing 20th century, and are continuing to move toward a more prosperous society with even greater achievements in science and social progress. One may begin to wonder how can researchers accomplish such improvements when problems they face seems more difficult and complicated to deal with than those in the past. As far as I am concerned, it is because they begin to realize the significance of turning to other field for help as well as using a wider scope to treat these problems.(此段没有明确提出对论题的观点,而且给我的感觉有点像中文的行文)


We can define people from other field as outsiders. They bring what they learn in their field and what they gain in their research to help people in another field, which is  a new way to overcome new problems in that field. The study of sports comes as a fine example. Football coaches no longer record important datas themselves, because football clubs such as Manchester United, FC Barcelona and AC Milan have used computer softwares to help them. These softwares can record a match and analyze the positions of players, the strategy the opponent take and mistakes players have made. After a macth, some machines are used to test players' fitness（to 组长，我那里的fitness是恰当性的意思而非健康） and recovering conditions.With the aid of outsiders from computer science, these coaches will know about their opponents as well as his players better. In this case, outsiders use their research outcomes to help people in other field successfully.(with the aid of these machines and software which were specially created for sports use by outsiders, coaches will……组长认为这样改可好，从machine转到outsider不会过于生硬)


Moreover, not only do outsiders' research outcomes, but also the methods they use to deal with problems in their field are helpful. While it is true that the knowledge used in one field seems quite different from others, their ways of thinking do provide useful imformation and can be effective catalysts in other fields. You can not deny that some majors, especially majors in （去掉major in 因为前面讲的就是majors而不是学生）engineering, researchers sometimes use the same math and computer tool to solve problems, and students from different subjects in college find a few subjects they take do have something in common. （主语不一致，插入语之后，突然出现了researcher,从句主语应该仍是major才对）Therefore, it seems possible（necessary）to turn to outsiders from other field. For instance, in the study of genetics, researchers always need to turn to specilists of the games theory. And the case of biologist coorperate with outsiders from fields such as computers and eletronic engineering comes as another example. When outsiders bring their ways of dealing with problems, which researchers in one field do not usually use, the insiders(people in the field) will have a broder scope and can treat the problems in other aspects in order to advance their study.（组长这一段是要论证insiders采用 outsiders的method来解决问题，但个人觉得例子举得并不好，第一个讲不同专业有不同课程这说明学科之间有互通而不是采用外来的method，第三个生物学家和计算机电子以及工程专家的合作说明也只是提到了合作的层面，而没有提到生物学家借鉴利用这两者在解决他们自身领域的method，至于第二个例子，因为不知道games theory是什么意思，所以不能妄下论断）


However, it is essential that insiders first have to grasp（想请问组长,grasp在做n.时有对知识等的掌握一意，在我的文章里为什么不能做名词呢，请组长赐教！谢！） the basic knowlege of their field. Without understanding theirs, they can never know what kind of outsiders they need to help them, and they may even be confused by outsiders and their ways of thinking. It is just like a skyscrapers without solid foundations, and skyscrapers like that will easily be knocked down, not to metion gaining advancement.

All in all, what insiders should do is to lay a strong foundation of knowlege and a good habit in study. When faced with diffculties, turn to outsiders if necessary. In this way, one is sure to achieve greater contributions to his study and thus make the field of his study advanced more significantly.(不知在这里把前面提到的再总结一下,然后在提出自己提炼的东西是否会更好)


总结：
1、组长的文字一向流畅，上一篇也是如此，大家要学习
2、有关于例子问题，本人觉得例子一定要点到位
3、对于组长提出的到底是写人还是写学科的问题，本人同意组长的观点，觉得应该写人！
4、对于组长文章结构本人有一点疑问（包括上一篇），也想跟各位讨论一下，组长的文章开头段总是不提出自己对论点的态度，支持与否表达的并不明确更不直接，但采用的方法都很新颖，上一次是疑问式，这一次是设问的自问自答式。那我们是否在首段直接表达自己的观点或是采用组长的方式吸引大家来阅读下文呢？

在下菜鸟一只，所发表的观点请组长批判地参考，改错的地方还请见谅！^^

zengailanUID: 2190029

TO acheetah   the opinion from the zengailan
issue 120 这篇的字数都还不够，每段开了头后，后面就不知如何展开了。

观点：部分反对。虽然历史有些观点对于我们现在已经显得过于陈旧、不再适用于现代生活，但历史对于我们现在仍然具有巨大的作用
1 举例说明历史中有很多的观点对现在仍然适用，举科学中的牛顿定律。
2 举权威的话说明历史可以鉴前世之兴衰，考当今之得失。编一个中学历史老师的话。然后用自身的一个例子来说明。
3 让步，承认历史中的确有某些观点不再适用于现在。

There are(There are省去） some people argue that history mean（means) little to our society because our society are so complex and new that history can not provide any guidance for us. It is true that some points which have propelled the progress of society in the history are no longer applicable for(delete the  "for") today, but the pass still can provides guidance for us.

The development of sciences can provide a persuasive argument to illustrate that history is important for us.(CHINESE ENGLISH, "In the process of the exploration to the science ,it is perfectly demonstrarted that the history play a important role) Modern sciences are developed from the pass step by step. You can image that if there were not(no) Newtonian mechanics, modern classical physics wouldn't exist. Even Newton himself once said that "the reason I can make the great performance is only that I were standing on the colossus's shoulders." so the pass is important for all of us whatever you do, whoever you are.

Furthermore, history provides us so many vivid examples, from them we can analysis the reason why some developed and the others declined and use what we learned to our behaviors. My history teacher in my senior middle school once told us that "history like a minor. When you are looking at it you are just looking at yourself. If you are puzzled and not know how to solute the dilemma, the best way for you is to look for solutions in the pass, finding out how the great man settled the problem and trying it for yourself."(EXCELLENT!) I remembered this word and try it then find that it does work.

Admittedly, each history(historic) event has the special environment which are so different to todays, so some of them may have no use to us. For example we could use the method that the primitive men get foods to solve our food crisis(?).

In conclusion, although some of history opinions are no use in contemporary situations, history can still provide guidance to us.
step by step  vivid
Even Newton himself once said that "the reason I can make the great performance is only (for)that I were standing on the colossus's shoulders." （这句话我想了半天愣是没想出来， 我COPY一下， 呵呵）
我觉的你那个历史老师的例子很好， 例子可以再多写点， 你可以把一个例子的细节扩展下， 举些反例适当。你的构思很好， 我得向你学。 继续加油

zengailanUID: 2190029

TO acheetah   the opinion from the zengailan
issue 120 这篇的字数都还不够，每段开了头后，后面就不知如何展开了。

观点：部分反对。虽然历史有些观点对于我们现在已经显得过于陈旧、不再适用于现代生活，但历史对于我们现在仍然具有巨大的作用
1 举例说明历史中有很多的观点对现在仍然适用，举科学中的牛顿定律。
2 举权威的话说明历史可以鉴前世之兴衰，考当今之得失。编一个中学历史老师的话。然后用自身的一个例子来说明。
3 让步，承认历史中的确有某些观点不再适用于现在。

There are(There are省去） some people argue that history mean（means) little to our society because our society are so complex and new that history can not provide any guidance for us. It is true that some points which have propelled the progress of society in the history are no longer applicable for(delete the  "for") today, but the pass still can provides guidance for us.

The development of sciences can provide a persuasive argument to illustrate that history is important for us.(CHINESE ENGLISH, "In the process of the exploration to the science ,it is perfectly demonstrarted that the history play a important role) Modern sciences are developed from the pass step by step. You can image that if there were not(no) Newtonian mechanics, modern classical physics wouldn't exist. Even Newton himself once said that "the reason I can make the great performance is only that I were standing on the colossus's shoulders." so the pass is important for all of us whatever you do, whoever you are.

Furthermore, history provides us so many vivid examples, from them we can analysis the reason why some developed and the others declined and use what we learned to our behaviors. My history teacher in my senior middle school once told us that "history like a minor. When you are looking at it you are just looking at yourself. If you are puzzled and not know how to solute the dilemma, the best way for you is to look for solutions in the pass, finding out how the great man settled the problem and trying it for yourself."(EXCELLENT!) I remembered this word and try it then find that it does work.

Admittedly, each history(historic) event has the special environment which are so different to todays, so some of them may have no use to us. For example we could use the method that the primitive men get foods to solve our food crisis(?).
In conclusion, although some of history opinions are no use in contemporary situations, history can still provide guidance to us.
step by step  vivid
Even Newton himself once said that "the reason I can make the great performance is only (for)that I were standing on the colossus's shoulders." （这句话我想了半天愣是没想出来， 我COPY一下， 呵呵）
我觉的你那个历史老师的例子很好， 例子可以再多写点， 你可以把一个例子的细节扩展下， 举些反例适当。你的构思很好， 我得向你学。 继续加油

pewcg8UID: 2143213

好象作业还不齐啊?

huhu_zsuUID: 2183490

请问“引用”的时候有什么方法可以不全文引用啊？？

monkeycolaUID: 2206472

今天端午节，晚上有活动，偷个懒！！明天把改了的作业传上来!
ps:各位xdjm端午节别学习的忘记吃粽子，大家要加油！！