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huhu_zsuUID: 2183490

原帖由 yuexuan 于 2006-5-25 22:56 发表
晕
咋用带颜色的字啊
俺不会用啊

me too.
很久以前好像看到过一个软件，要用那个吗？？

pewcg8UID: 2143213

原帖由 huhu_zsu 于 2006-5-26 13:22 发表

me too.
很久以前好像看到过一个软件，要用那个吗？？

不用,把你要加颜色的字选中,再选上边的"颜色"下拉菜单就可以了.

nostrumUID: 2124189

同时征集意见,大家看Argument一周两篇多么?我觉得A可以减量.可以一周写一篇
但是其实A就是个理清逻辑思路思路的问题，我觉得写起来应该不费太多的时间吧，而且相对好把握，倾向于一周写一篇
每人至少改一到两篇的作文(自由选择,只要是自己的小组就可以)
我觉得不用再分小组了吧
现在群里有9个人
我觉得不出意外应该就这样了，所以随便找两篇改就可以

yuexuanUID: 155186

to edream (小草)
Issue 120        
The speaker asserts that since so much is new and complex today(用分词短语是不是较好),the past provides little guidance for living in present .I admit that in several respects（这个单词？） the assertion is reasonable .However ,the speakers overlooks （主谓不一致）that some ideas and methods in the past are still affecting our modern life.

Recently, the social is developing fast and changes are happening everyday .Sometimes people even feel that they can not catch up with the pace of the whole world .So it is understandable that some traditional ideas in the past can not be accepted by people today .For example, more and more women choose to work outside instead of doing housework at home .In the past , as we all know, it is considered inappropriate that a woman works outside. But now, women claim that they should be treated equally with men.

However, we can not deny that in several aspects the history is valuable and can still give us a good suggestion. In the scientific field, some classical experiments are still shining in modern scientific research, because the basic design ideas will never fade no matter what changes has（主谓不一致） happened. The discovery of a truth can be divided into several phases: find a new phenomenon; raise a new hypothesis; design an experiment to testify the hypothesis; find another phenomenon; revise old hypothesis. This law must be obeyed by scientists in any scientific research in any times although it has been established in the past .In other fields, the remainder of history can also be found.

Moreover, we can avoid some old mistakes by referring to history. Two atom-bombs were exploded in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. It is totally a disaster. Many people lost their home and radiation after explosion affected several generations' health. So now, many countries collaborate to prevent the development of atom-bombs（个人感觉应该是原子弹研究的进展，不是原子弹的进展把）.  

In sum, everything has two sides .To（as for。。is concerned更好把） history , we should exclude the part that impedes human advancement and learn from the part that can still do good to human. （which part？如用part指明此处的part是理解过去的part）

个人水平有限，不知道该怎样改，只能改这么多啊
不过感觉很多句子是汉语的思维翻译

yuexuanUID: 155186

argument一周一篇足够了

yuexuanUID: 155186

其实个人感觉issue前期最好也是一周一篇
好好修改
改完后重写
到后期才一周两篇
前期练习慢慢形成自己的风格
后期就得练习速度了

nostrumUID: 2124189

我觉得issue还是逼一下自己比较好

FrostmournUID: 2179616

Issue 120 "So much is new and complex today that looking back for an understanding of the past provides little guidance for living in the present."

Nowadays technology has reshaped and recreated the society to unprecedented degree,and  also our understanding become new and complicated day by day. we accept the reality that  contemporary life changes so swiftly, but should we（什么语法结构？） look back to the past to acquire some useful guidance.In my opinion,looking back of（to吧） the past to acquire ufeful information is important and essential which help us to make a deliberate decision and avoid making mistakes.
To begin with ,as we look back to the history of science,we understand its principal of evolvement and learn the lessons from its rough and staggering development which can guide us to open a brand new digital age.Studying the history of science can help us face new challenges by showing（好像主谓搭配有点别扭，主语是学习科学史） us numerous of（应该可以去掉of） inspirational examples of success. For instance,we all know the great inventor Thomas Edision that sometimes a series of apparent failures is really a precursor to success. And also consider the journey of Lewis and Clark into the Northwest territory.（这个例子应该详述一下，以便支持主旨） Understanding the motivation needed to surpass adversities they faced can help to inspire modern-day explorers and scientists.

Inaddition,,as we look back to the history of social issue,we know what is right or wrong,and what is avoidable.Crime and violence ,for examples ,have troubled almost every society for hundreds of years.All kinds of reform,prevention,even punishmens have been tried and improved which（这里是什么结构？看不懂） still couldn’t eliminate crime and violence.,and history makes it obvious that punishments are not the most effective means to eliminate crime.In addition,Form the history ,we know that the world war that how atrocious it is and it pose a great threat to people in the world ,so we try to exclude（avert或avoid较好吧，exclude是排除，include的反义词）.Furthermore,history helps us to social problem is in the fact that, despite civial rights efforts of Martin Luther King and his progenies fight for black men as well as white men,would guaranteed the inalienable rights of life,liberty,and pursuit of happiness,the gap between African-Americans and white Americans are widen.

Finally,as we look back to the politics,we know which government is the most suitable for the people.In the past,the society contains slavery,colonies,even coercion.During the centries of ceaseless pursue,we realize the essence of a society is the individual freedom which means human right.（最好有例子支持一下，当然估计你是限时的没时间了，如果有时间应该更充分论证一下）  
To sum up,in terms of how to live as a society I agree with that looking back and learning the past is of some value.Not only do we absorb the experience which our predecessor left to us,but also create new solutions on the basis of past to solve the problems.

建议多读范文（北美范文，ets范文什么的）学习句子结构，尤其是长句，因为你习作里有些地方让人不易理解，句子比较乱）

FrostmournUID: 2179616

120. "So much is new and complex today that looking back for an understanding of the past provides little guidance for living in the present."
现代社会是如此的崭新和复杂以至于回首了解过去对于当代生活已经没有太大帮助了。
提纲：
论点：虽然现在社会复杂，但是了解过去可以使我们更好的适应社会生活．
分论点１：了解过去使我们能够借鉴过去人物的成功经验和失败教训，从而缓解我们的压力．
分论点２：分析历史，使我们能够更好的预测未来，知道我们未来的计划和行动．
分论点３：但是，不能过分的依赖历史．
We are now living in a complex society with great pressure from work and study. One have to struggle a lot to earn a better living. It seems impossible to learn about every field of knowledge today, why we still take our look backward and try to understand the past?（开头提出问题，挺新颖的）

The main reason might be that we want to find a way out of the pressure. When it is difficult for a person to get everything he want, for example, a higher position in his job, a better housing, a sound pay, or even a good outlooking, he may try to find a  way to relive（relieve吧） his tension, one of which, and maybe the most effective way, is looking to the past. He may look to the past for advice from the Chinese philosophy（philosopher）-Confucius, or from the famous Germany composer-Beethoven, or from the former President-Abraham Lincoln. He can gain direct knowledge from just look in the past and analyze（by just looking into the past,analyzing...） what successful person did in the past to guide his action, also what mistakes they had made in order to avoid accomplishing（suffering吧） a fiasco. After he has looked to the past for direction, he will feel more confident in front of problems in his life, which increase the chance of being successful in his work or study. It is clear that keeping doing everything right will absolutely relive his pressure in life.

Another factor is that history is replete with fine examples, examples such as how to successfully build a factory or develop a kind of industry, how to control a large country, how to teach young children to write and read. Although these cases are in different period of times, and can not be simply copied nowadays, they do give us something to learn from, especially when we have to do a long-term project that is hard to value its advantages and disadvantages as well as problems that might come along with the project. Then（then回应前面的什么？有点唐突） the history comes out as a perfect example to learn from. One can easily find something long ago, which, although different from what he will do in some aspects, can be used in some areas of the project. These experiences are well tested through history, and can ensure his success.（建议举一个具体例子详述历史怎么帮助知道今天行动的，这段很重要）

But if a person depends too much on the past experiences, and always put him in the shoe of the past, he will feel like he is also living in the past. Unfortunely, the pressure and chanllenges  we face today may be so great that people in the past, if they are living in our society, will feel frustrated and unbearable. （这个怎么证明依靠历史经验就不行了？）If a person only copy the experiences of the success people in  the past and does not make neccessary changes to adapt the world  today, it will be much likely that he will not get what a wanted.（what he want）

So it is clear that we should look to the past but not too much. The experiences from our precedents are valuable treasure, but we can never rely on this treasure, even sleep on（可惜估计老外不会懂） them. One of the best way to get rid of the pressure today and accomplish something  great, （怎么摆脱压力和实现目标可不是题目的主旨，应回扣的是“历史对现在的知道”）is to study hard, work well, use your head, and just use some of the treasure of the past and put the treasure of your own at the same time.

[ 本帖最后由 Frostmourn 于 2006-5-26 22:46 编辑 ]

FrostmournUID: 2179616

Argumnet 47:
47.Scientists studying historical weather patterns have discovered that in the mid-sixth century, Earth suddenly became significantly cooler. Although few historical records survive from that time, some accounts found both in Asia and Europe mention a dimming of the sun and extremely cold temperatures. Either a huge volcanic eruption or a large meteorite colliding with Earth could have created a large dust cloud throughout Earth's atmosphere that would have been capable of blocking enough sunlight to lower global temperatures significantly. A large meteorite collision, however, would probably create a sudden bright flash of light, and no extant historical records of the time mention such a flash. Some surviving Asian historical records of the time, however, mention a loud boom that would be consistent with a volcanic eruption. Therefore, the cooling was probably caused by a volcanic eruption.

This argument asserts that the probably reason for global cooling in the mid-sixth century is a volcanic eruption. To bolster this conclusion, the argument finds two reasons—“Either a huge volcanic eruption or a large meteorite colliding with Earth” and eliminates the possibility of the latter one. Careful examination of this supporting evidence, however, reveals that it lends little credible support to the conclusion.

To begin with, the argument tends to ignore the fact that there are many factors contribute to the global cooling, volcanic eruption and large meteorite colliding are only two possible causations. It is entirely possible that the cooling was caused by the occurring of the Ice Age, or some other unknown geographical factors, or even result from all these factors acted together. Therefore, the argument can not justifiably conclude that the cooling was caused by a volcanic eruption until considering and ruling out other factors that might have served to the argument（用phenomenon吧？argument有些指代不明，谁的？）. Otherwise the following argument is meaningless.

Granting that the cooling was due to the two reasons as the arguer mentions, the argument unfairly assumes that dimming of the sun in Asia and Europe proves a large dust cloud throughout Earth's atmosphere which blocked enough sunlight to lower global temperatures significantly. Because the only accounts of the dimming of the sun found Asia and Europe can merely support the possible situation in Asia and Europe at that time and does not adequately respond to the global situation. Large as the earth is, conditions of one continent are absolutely different from another. Only if the argument prove that the dimming of sun in Asia and Europe typify the same situation of other places on the earth, can the evidence be credible.
（我个人以为，原文“Either a huge volcanic eruption or a large meteorite colliding with Earth could have created a large dust cloud throughout Earth's atmosphere that would have been capable of blocking enough sunlight to lower global temperatures significantly. ”是作为事实给出来的，而一篇帖子里讲ets说了，不应攻击事实，而应攻击arguer的论据不能有效支持论点，也就是说，咱们攻击他的推理逻辑，而不是事实）

Thirdly, given that the whole earth's atmosphere was blocked from sunlight by large dust cloud, the argument does not provide enough evidence that large meteorite collision did not contribute to the large dust cloud. The argument claims that a large meteorite collision would probably create a sudden bright flash of light, however, "probably" does not mean every time. Perhaps there was large meteorite collision without bright flash of light at that time. What's more, common sense tells us that no extant historical records do not stand（substantiate） that the event did not happened. In the view of such a long period of time, evidence can be missed, destroyed by any possible means. And maybe some evidence can be found in the near future.

Finally, when it comes to the mention of a loud boom, again, the argument uses historical records only from Asia to support a volcanic eruption did occur,（这点有点薄弱，如果真发生了，有asia的准确记录足以，因为其它地方未必能听见） which is not persuasive. It is not compellent that a single volcanic eruption occurred in Asia, so as to produce such a large dust cloud that was capable to cover the earth’s entire atmosphere. Further, the mere mention of loud boom does not necessarily indicate that a volcanic eruption happened at that time. Many reasons can explain a loud boom, such as avalanche, landslide, meteoroid collision and so on. Without excluding other possible reasons the argument can not convince me on the final conclusion.

To sum up, the argument cites several evidence to prove that the cooling was probably caused by a volcanic eruption. But none of evidence is well supported. To strengthen it the argument should provide more clear evidence as following: other factors which were attributable to the global cooling did not play roles at the mid-sixth century; the causal relationship between the recorded loud boom and volcanic eruption; other indispensable details to support the argument.

[ 本帖最后由 Frostmourn 于 2006-5-26 23:18 编辑 ]

nostrumUID: 2124189

雷锋级的人物
你的作业呢？

huhu_zsuUID: 2183490

To nostrum
120"So much is new and complex today that looking back for an understanding of the past provides little guidance for living in the present."
提纲：历史留给我们很多优秀的品质，可以作为我们解决问题的精神动力
      过去的经验可以帮助我们推断新问题的结果，从而选择恰当的解决方法
      诚然，现在有的问题是以前从没遇到过的，只能现代人凭自己的实力解决
Modern society is filled with new and complex problems which require us to search for new guidance in order to solve them. In my observation, the wise choice for us is not only looking back on the past for the former measures but also understanding the present for new ideas.(平衡式的观点，在开头亮出让人感觉很清晰。但我的感觉是用not only but also 句式好像让人觉得你下面要说的重点是but also后面的观点。可是后面大部分文字是在说looking back on the past.  也许是我的语感问题。）To begin with, the past is a book abundant with precious virtues and principles which will do many benefits to us in guiding our behaviors. A great person once said “Forgetting of the past is equal to defection.” History ,just like a mirror, can reflect the fundamental of society for modern individual. Franklin Roosevelt ,for instance, is a great person from whom we can find out plenty of honorable characteristics and notable spirits,such as his diligence in carrying out his position of political issue, his adamancy of struggling with severely diseases , his spirits of devoting his life to the prosperity of America and so fourth. It is safe for us to say that an individual puzzling with different kinds of problems could gain great encouragement from him and become strong to meet（面对or解决，换个词可能好点） his problems. Therefore, it is true that modern people meet new and complex problems, but the essential spirit of solving them can be find in the past.（集中从一个人身上发掘论据，，这个办法不错。学习！！）
Moreover, history is an explanation and understanding of not only human behavior but also the doctrine of what things will turn out to be. We can analyze the fundamental of society according to the knowledge accumulated throughout the history. Image that if a company meets with a severe period, what step the manager will take? He will convene employees to discuss what measure to take, associated with investigating the similar situation other company conquer in the past. We all have the sense that we can find out the means of solving dilemma in the past since history is a process of it, we can predict the result. Another illustration I find compelling in this point is our opinion of war in the present. No one can deny that our world is not harmony enough. There are conflicts and quarrels every now and then.（什么意思？）Albeit different nations might be strongly against with each other , we have being spared every effort （spare no ffort to是不遗余力，spared every effort 是？？）to avoid any form of war between them. Because we have known too much about the consequence of war from the history, we have the awareness of keeping peace as possible as we can. No matter how new and complex our society is ,most of the time,we can turn to the past for the answer.

Admittedly, there are some problems our forebears never met so that we should deal with them totally by ourselves. Take Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome for example,  a nightmare for us, our forebears had never met with this kind of disease so that we could not refer to medical records on it , what we can do is only finding out the medicine for this disease by our experiments. It is also can be called the limit of the past.（这个观点很好，但我觉得应该再写长一点。在北美范文中曾说到应保持段落间的长度上的平衡。我比较赞同这个观点。当然，也不能刻意追求。）
To sum up, the past is the treasure what our forebears left to us, we should emphasize its importance in guiding our behaviors while we cannot rely on it completely since we might meet absolute new situation.

水平有限，不能看出更多问题。说的也可能不对，欢迎与我“理论”。

[ 本帖最后由 huhu_zsu 于 2006-5-27 13:09 编辑 ]

nostrumUID: 2124189

我用not only……but also……在那里确实不太好
我的理解是这个短语的两部分是同等重要的
主题句需要改，改成对第一二段的概括，用此短语连接起来
every now and then 的意思是时而不时的，常常的
spare every effort我的spare是用错了，但是我忘了应该是哪个词了，回头再想想
换成spare no effort就对了 , thanks
我这篇文章确实问题不少，thanks

xxxxzoeUID: 2200473

大家也帮我改改文章呀
怎么都没人理我的呀

pewcg8UID: 2143213

原帖由 xxxxzoe 于 2006-5-27 15:30 发表
大家也帮我改改文章呀
怎么都没人理我的呀

恩,希望自己发了作文的同学一定要帮别人改一到两篇作文,Peter会及时统计的,如果发现谁没有改别人的作文,或者修改不认真的话,我们将把他/她踢出小组.
另外,最后还没有人修改的文章Peter会和其他组长轮流帮助修改.